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2nd May 2013 03:55 - 11 years ago
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Description : an attempt by Saz(Baglama) Mandolla & Bagpipe & percussion .
does any body here listen to such instruments? !?
well..I don't think...sure not too many !
as a self-critic I think duration is long,would be important for me if anyone who listens to this tell me which parts are better to remain and which parts are better to be deleted for shorter duration?

Comments (21)

If you have time take a listen and give deciBel some feedback.

ShortBusMusic
ShortBusMusic 16th Apr 2014 15:46 - 10 years ago
I know you have put your instruments away and parted company with music, but I am still so happy to find some of your work still posted here for all of us to enjoy. You truly have such marvelous abilities and it is such a shame that your circumstances don't allow for the expression of those talents. I listen with both a mix of sadness and happiness. Sad that you are no longer creating music, but happy that there are still gems like this one out there for us to all enjoy. I hope life is treating you well Behnam. All my best to you.

Bear
Tonality
Tonality 21st Nov 2013 15:43 - 11 years ago
okay ate last tonight i found this chance to listen to other tracks from my strange friend in looperman and you are only musician who i see every time every play opens a new world for me it looks like that there are a team that compose your tracks because i donno how one musician can make something like this and some thing like misanthrope or those metal musics that i have her from you!i am confused how you can be
like this!but Ben why not download?i like to have tjis in my playlist buddy!i dunno these instruments you have in this track but they sound like you unique and in a very amazing way!again thumb up Behnam.
deciBel
deciBel replied 22nd Feb 2014 - 11 years ago
many thnx my friend & sorry for latency .wished U had told me U've commented & I haven't answered .
well no I'm not a team as U know , I just look to composing music as some mathematical calculations & cause I have never
had any idol in music and haven't been fan of someone , so for me doesn't matter what type or what instrument and I try on every instruments . meanhile this was a simple loop usage which didn't deserve such compliments Tonality good friend of mine.great appology for latency again . regarding downlad , no problem right now I'll send it for U by email & I'll be honoured as usual and as U know .take care , sorry for latency again & many thnx .___B
theHumps
theHumps 14th Nov 2013 17:48 - 11 years ago
These are not instruments I am familiar with but ones that I do enjoy listening to. I liked all of the parts to the song, the ending beat was a bit different though. It has a live feel to it, like there is a few Benhams sitting around jamming together!! That would be cool to see!!

Another great job Benham, you always open my eyes wider to music every time I visit your tracks page.

I liked the bagpipes. I read your reply to phatkatz4 about a bagpipe loop pack. Would you be so kind as to email that link to me? I think I might use those in the future.

Thanks for sharing, wonderful track!

Wayne
deciBel
deciBel replied 22nd Feb 2014 - 11 years ago
oops ! my friend Wayne !why U don't say anything to me !
I'm really sorry in fact really ashamed for haven't answered this comment of yours...in fac hadn't seen ....
oh ! yes wayne absolutely yes for sure I'll send those groove loops that i've made this trial by them for U now by email & I'll be honoured my friend for doing that .
wayne , sir ! U have my email ! a short question that Behnam Why U haven't answered me was easy for U ! I really didn't want to be ashamed for such a foolish latency about comment from someone who is so dear for me , sorry.& the rest in mail.all the best.___Behnam
ebaby8119
ebaby8119 12th Nov 2013 05:11 - 11 years ago
this is dope! i listened all the way thru!
deciBel
deciBel replied 12th Nov 2013 - 11 years ago
:) dope! haha...cool explanation it was.
thnx for attention & time for interesting commenT.
best wishes.___Behnam
new5ense
new5ense 12th Nov 2013 04:55 - 11 years ago
Id be honored to collaborate. I just downloaded and I will use some parts and add a few of sounds to make this gold. Thanks for including me.
deciBel
deciBel replied 12th Nov 2013 - 11 years ago
ThanX to U my man & I'm honoured too to find a new tallented unseen friend. for sure U can add ,cut,delet,or tell me to change anything U wanT for your better , or easier attempT .just cause U can't send any private message for me from looperman I wrote for U my email in a notice for U & to respecT your future attempT I canceled download premission below track,cause personaly if I was a singer , I didn't like to see everybody can download instrumental version of track which I'm supposed to sing.best wishes.____Behnam
ElenaSatine
ElenaSatine 11th Nov 2013 14:08 - 11 years ago
woow i dig it .i love that bagpipe!
have you played mandola?
it sounds very real.
i didn't feel it is 6 minutes!
my vote is track is superb and doesn't need any change.
you are a strange tallent of muzik.
deciBel
deciBel replied 11th Nov 2013 - 11 years ago
no , as U can see in my profile , I don't play mandola.
i'm glad to see U think track doesn't need to change ,but i don't know...6 minutes is abit long for a track I think...althought because of the same what U and the other say I hadn't changed this to a shorter version before ..
thnax alot colleague for attention and presence and time.best wishes.___Behnam
new5ense
new5ense 11th Nov 2013 09:14 - 11 years ago
I love pattern in the beginning I would keep that throughout the whole track and make the other sounds bigger to really suck your audience in.
deciBel
deciBel replied 11th Nov 2013 - 11 years ago
hey new5ense , I've listened your musiX too , and I can suggest U have an attempT on this trial for the same hiphop and rap style of yours.if U see tempo and beat is almost equal with your last uploaded track in this .tell me what U think about my suggestion.and thnx alot for your attention & taken time to comment for this trial of mine.best wishes tallented new5ense.___Behnam
Leverett
Leverett 11th Nov 2013 08:45 - 11 years ago
I’d make a shorter intro: from 6th second you could jump straight to 25th, 26th second. Like three bars from the first drum loop and one bar from the second one, to launch the mandola, for example.
It’s not a written rule, but lots of times if you have a loop which goes for 4 bars followed by another one which goes for another 4 bars, you can “melt” them keeping the first going for 3 bars and the second for the last bar: it often “launches” the following part very well.

You could do something like that between 1:04 and 1:26, for example.
deciBel
deciBel replied 11th Nov 2013 - 11 years ago
at last I'm so good to see someone has ben agree with me abouT duration of this ethnic trial of mine ,and before everything an exclusive thnx for your attention and shared idea in commenT.
yes it's lOoOng ..good to see U've underestood iT..
regarding seconds 7 to 26 , I underestand your idea , buT
if U pay alittle more attention U'll underestand @ 11thsecond another percusive line is added to the first line,and then @18th second both these membranophonic lines are changed to 2 new one & then music goes to second 26.and I thaughT if I delet this parT , listener will miss hearing how 2 percussive asian membranophone(percussive in fact)line can be add together and change to 2 new one.
and abouT 1:04 to 1:26 , I like your idea again .
but maybe my mix is not good enough or U haven;t lustened tracj by headphone . strumming intruments playes to riff that are very similar to eachother ,buT there are 2 different note in them .this difference is such little that we can ignore it .and I'm gratefull of your worthy attention & usefull comment.I ain't change this version here in looperman cause I have not that mood , buT I'll ignore that 22seconds and will send U too a verion of thaT.
anad about melting loops in 3th bar line , I can underestand if U may don't know much about persian music & literature,as I don't know much about Italian ethnic instruments & musical form and literature , buT We should follow some harmonic rules in Persian music , for example riff proression should be couple_couple and executed in couple bars.we may can do that obvious idea of yours easily in pop and rock , buT persian music follows persian literature and has such exclusive rules like couple progressions.
thnk U very much colleague Leverett.right now when I'm replying U , totaly 21 id have commented for this trial and yours is most usefull of them . thnx and best wishes.___Behnam
Spivkurl
Spivkurl 31st Aug 2013 19:45 - 11 years ago
Amazing work my friend! I would not change a thing about this! Very original in so many ways, but classic too! Wonderful rhythms! Perfect mixing for a song of this sort! I'm in awe of you! Faved for sure!
deciBel
deciBel replied 18th Sep 2013 - 11 years ago
ooops my friend forgive me for latency in replY ,I hadn't come to site if I'm 2 weeX late & now I see haven't replied your comment .and regarding your generous comment I should say I didn't except if U may like such traX . & so glad to read such positive comment from U .honourd , for sure .best wishes Patrick ,dear.____Behnam
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 4th May 2013 04:11 - 11 years ago
Behnam...there are no pictures of me on the internet...lucky for me haha....I have some music under the studio name West Tracks Music here:
http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=1049716&T=2942

and a few tunes on Soundcloud....
and you would not want to see a picture of Grandpa Ed.....
deciBel
deciBel replied 4th May 2013 - 11 years ago
hey!ja..!?ow..! so I have mistaken about a photo found in internet(althouth He was not that Ed Cunningham producer & was not Ed Cunnigham Footbalist too & was playinG Guitar so I thaught this should be your picture in ''www.Fandalism.com _ TomorrW '' feat with our yugoslavian friend Serje & another man lin below:
http://www.fandalism.com/djshemzee/bD4B&usg=__Sqnb8KR94Nvz93fj9EeB9khCB9o=&h=360&w=480&sz=15&hl=en&start=17&zoom=1&tbnid=EONMD-7dpF8XbM:&tbnh=97&tbnw=129&ei=A4OEUeq0CcqR7AavqYDQBg&prev;=/search?q=ed+cunningham+guitar&newwindow=1&sa=X&hl=en&biw=1064&bih=420&tbm=isch&itbs=1&sa=X&ved=0CE0QrQMwEA ) . hey man hahahaha why? do U live in Islamic republic too & are U too illegal & forbidden like me in my country hahahaha ?!
hey man it was a golden Gift for me !now I can download 26new traX by Ed Cunningham & so will register in there .really thanX alot Ed !U made week by this golden link !
and about soundCloud unfortunately I can't access to soundcloud or facebook or twitter or even YouTube & various other sites Ed cause I'm online with Iran Internetwork (in fact with terrorists internet connection hahaha) & its Islamic rules which doesn't allow me to see soundcloud ( writes:''Access is denied'' for Me ) & some times too sites have some rules about Iran Sanction(& again writes access is denied ).also Iran network is such slow that I can't see any Video & downloading only a track sometimes takes about 20 or 30 minutes for me .any way thanx Ed for your attention & I really wish the bests for U & your family dear unbelievable grandpa .Sincerely.____Behnam.
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 4th May 2013 03:11 - 11 years ago
Surprise...surprise.....and bravo Behnam...That percussion and the instrumentation are a beautiful marriage ...don`t change anything...I have used bagpipes in several Celtic tracks I have done in the past and also Uilleann pipes which are Irish...I am originally from Northern Ireland and lived in Scotland for 2 years...so while they may be unusual for some people I am quite familiar with the sounds....This is the first time I have heard them use with an Eastern flavour..and I really enjoyed it.....Your creativity is a wonderful gift my friend....well done indeed......Ed
deciBel
deciBel replied 4th May 2013 - 11 years ago
hey man I searched but didn't succeed(according to Iran network Islamic Illegal access) so searched again & searched again&again; to at last in my chance Day I got succeed to see my Favorite Guitarist's lovely Face and glad to now Know He's originally from Northern Ireland . Ed You know your possitive Comment would be as a certification for your Iranian friend who now when saw U online become glad cause thaught now will hear a new track by his Favorite Guitarist & so took a look to your profile but didn't find .
thanX a lot man for your encouragement which according to my great respect for your idea really effects on me as an energizer as U may Know Ed & WIsh U'll accept my best wishes.respectfully,sincerely.___Behnam.
ShortBusMusic
ShortBusMusic 3rd May 2013 16:48 - 11 years ago
My brother Behnam, I would not change a thing on this one. It is absolutely perfect. I have visions of the Grand Bazaar in Tehran when I listen to this.

You have such a unique and wonderful style with all of your music. Just when I think I have you figured out, you go another direction and show me another facet of your musical talents.

Really well done Behnam. A song for the ages. I hope all is well.

Bear
deciBel
deciBel replied 3rd May 2013 - 11 years ago
Hi Master,really glad to see you here to commenting on this trial of mine .and dear brother Bear How do you know Grand and old & dirty Bazar in tehran man?! I wondered ! anyway adept it's a good feeling when U see your favorit artist has a positive idea about your trax which you gave me this nice feeling by your worthwhile possitive comment on this trial & thanx alot for every thing Bear .my best wishes as always.respectfully.___Behnam
laenvidia
laenvidia 3rd May 2013 14:38 - 11 years ago
mira te quedo brutal la pista como la de ragga
deciBel
deciBel replied 4th May 2013 - 11 years ago
excuse me dear friend but I don't know your language & so naturally I don't underestand any concept of your comment laenvidia !would be glad if U may translate it to the same english.
brillbilly
brillbilly 2nd May 2013 23:22 - 11 years ago
This is so enjoyable behnam!

Very unique,I dont think you should worry about removing anything.!

I cant tell you to add or remove any instruments as its unique to your persian style,and i've not heard anything like it.!

What i do know is its very enjoyable and full of middle eastern Mysticism, and i like that!

Just keep doing what your doing,as its sounding so enjoyable.!

Good work my friend!

life love n unity to you and your loved ones!
deciBel
deciBel replied 3rd May 2013 - 11 years ago
Hi my dear friend,wish all is well arounf U man.Chris no,U certainly can tell me about adding or removing any part of this trial man and I wished U had written your Idea about how to decrease duration about it if it's long .thanx alot man about your taken time to listen so patient always in my trax in email & here both & thanx alot about your kind comment too .my best wishes as always.Sincerely.___Behnam
mrwolf14
mrwolf14 2nd May 2013 16:48 - 11 years ago
Hi Behnam,
Again a wonderful piece of music.
I agree with the others: there is not much to remove here.
The bagpipes are wonderful and the other instruments are completely new to me: listening to your song has been a real experience for me. Thanks!
The only thing that it is not "as good" as the rest is the final "percussion" part. I think it is the same part you use in the intro, but when it starts again (~6:30) it breaks a bit the atmosphere. Maybe a fade-out on the bag-pipe theme would be better (just a thought).
For the rest: superb! I really enjoyed every minute: I have listened to this already 3 times in a row and I find it soooo interesting. Definitely something out of the ordinary.
Thanks my friend!
Domenico
deciBel
deciBel replied 3rd May 2013 - 11 years ago
Hey See Domenico too is here & I'm glad to see my good friend here to comment on my persian trial .&....ja..U're quite right about this good Idea...exactly the samepercussion riff which begins track is repeated in the last part & I can delet it !ja...exact..thanx alot Domenico for this usefull comment & I should really appreciate your carefull listening & attention about this matter about this trial of mine .right in the same way in email your Ideas are often usefull for me here below this trial too I can use your usefull Idea & I should be thankfull.take care about yourself my friend & accept my best wishes as always,Sincerely.___Behnam
MStokes
MStokes 2nd May 2013 14:41 - 11 years ago
every second counts in this - defiant and pastoral = rock.
woolly rock!!!!!
so i must quote patti smith:

I was dreaming in my dreaming of an aspect bright and fair

And my sleeping it was broken
but my dream it lingered near

In the form of shining valleys
where the pure air recognized

And my senses newly opened
I awakened to cry -
That the people have the power to redeem the works of fools

Upon the meek the graces shower
it's decreed
the people rule.

The people have the power
deciBel
deciBel replied 4th May 2013 - 11 years ago
hahaha Mike , First I thaught I have such a good chance in which U have told me this is Your Idea about Collaboration to sing this beautiful text by yourself on this tril of mine & was very very very Glad !hahaha but then when I read another time again your comment I got what U've wrote in your lovely CommenT.so first thanx alot man because of ypur taken time to listen to this trial of mine & another (second)thanx alot cause I didn't know Patti Smith & searched him & found a new ( for me)cool Singer for lstening & a lovely poem to reading at last third thanx alot for your worthwhile Idea about duration & I'm honored Mike to See your possitive opinion about it as U know and this is not a compliment man.accept my best wishes ,respectfully,sincerely.____Behnam.
Dakotamoon666
Dakotamoon666 2nd May 2013 14:22 - 11 years ago
Hi Behnam. I would change nothing at your track. As Dan already said it is not the usual music we hear otherwise here, so it's good that we often hear such music from you. It sounds interesting and is made ​​distinctively Persian with your heart and soul. Keep it up my friend. Marko
deciBel
deciBel replied 4th May 2013 - 11 years ago
hey so honoured to see you too here dear Marco ,Dakotamoon666 who I have listened & enjoyed several traX of him & I didn't guess if U too may listen such instruments man & I'm really thankfull about your attention & taken time to listen to & comment on this trial(attempt) of mine . & also thank U about your Idea about duration ,glad if U think duration was proper specially cause this timing is set to my persian lyriX on it too.Marco accept my best wishes,Sincerely yours.____Behnam
Darkreine
Darkreine 2nd May 2013 08:29 - 11 years ago
Hey man, anytime I hear bagpipes it gets my Scottish blood boiling and I want to grab my Claymore and paint my face blue! But this wasn't Scottish bagpipes, this was something special, something with Persian blood running through it. Really like the beat, maybe your guitar might improve it.

Kenny
deciBel
deciBel replied 2nd May 2013 - 11 years ago
hey Kenny !your are one of my hopes about collaboration about it cause according to your skill about percussive instruments I was thinking to please you about any additional instrument by your elegance,and about bagpipe yes,the Scottish Great Highland Bagpipe and Irish uilleann pipes have the greatest international visibility, bagpipes have been played for centuries throughout large parts of Europe, the Caucasus,around the Persian Gulf and Northern Africa((althought I'm sure U know better than me but source:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagpipes))+ also
this biblography adress:((http://www.sitemaker.umich.edu/medieval/view_bibliography&groupSize=50&recordID=0000c0a8de10000007dbf2010000012c98e0ed8767a62518&mode=list&sortDirection0=Ascending&column0=Topic&sortColumn0=Source&comparisonType0=contains+(text+only)&value0=musical))and in such scales bagpipe sounds eatern theme.
and about Guitar...ja usefull Idea from my throughbred friend,really thanx Kenny for this Idea,I'll try on it but I was afraid if using my guitar give a usual taste of my traX to it & wish you played guitar about it and I will be glad again if YOU can do something on it.Kenny as always your comment was considered & so usefull for me thanx alot my lovely friend & greatest respects.____Behnam
VickyDan
VickyDan 2nd May 2013 08:19 - 11 years ago
Bonjour Behnam ....

For me, there is nothing to remove here. This is another facet of your talent, and feelings that motivate you. Also a way of expressing yourself freely ....
This is not of music, that we can usually listen here, but it allows us to travel without moving from his armchair.
Honestly do not touch anything, and thank you for sharing this moment if intense for you.

Dan
deciBel
deciBel replied 2nd May 2013 - 11 years ago
Bonjour dear Dan,honestly I should say U made me so glad by your presence & worthy of adoration comment.uumm.. if I have got true you think it's better for me to don't change anything about it?I will be really glad if one of most important comment for me thinks like this..U know Dan it's not my genre ⁢'s so far from my genre& in fact my second attempt on such Instruments,and this track just is important for me cause according to persian taste,it can be usefull for me to transmit my lyriX opposit to the Iran government to Iranian listener(all my trax which U hear instrumental version hear have lyriX for me in persian) and this was quite set with my persian lyrix.thnax alot for your attention & your taken time.my best wishes as always.respectully,__Behnam
edepi
edepi 2nd May 2013 08:06 - 11 years ago
kare jalebi bood.man az koliatesh khosham oomad.hamoontor ke khodet ham eshare kardi ye kam toolanie....shaiad hameye ghesmathash ro bayad negah dari amma har loop ro kamtar tekrar koni va inke be nazaram hanooz chandta saaz kam dare albate baraye sazhaye jadid pishnahadi nadaram...ama fekr mikonam ye chizi bayad behesh ezafe koni ke ziad shenide nashe amma fazahaye khali paszaminaro por kone....
deciBel
deciBel replied 2nd May 2013 - 11 years ago
ebteda sepase besiar az hozure ham mihanam .
bale khanum pas shoma ham mese man va baraX gheire iraniha fekr mikonid in tulanie.dar morede tekrare loopha man tabe'e kame shodane jomle avazeshun kardam va khob fekr mikonam age zudtar az un avazeshun mikardam jomlehaye yekayeke saz ha va riff haye ma dar jomlehaye instrumental guya nabudand.amma bale movafegham ba shoma mistunam ba'zi tekrar ha ro hazf konam va mamnunam az nazare mofidetun.va dar morede ezafe kardane yek range soutie dige ham ideaye besiar khubie amma man hadsi nadaram ke (masalan inja yeki az dustaye france man neveshte behesh guitar add kon)kodum saz mitune monaseb bashe man fekr mikonam yek saze zakhmei ( strumming)mesle ood ya barbat ya hardygurdy mitune mofid bashe ke baz ham manunam az inke idea haye arzeshmande zehnetun ro share kardid.ghadrdani ikonm az hozure mofidetun va arezuhaye khube hamishegie man baraye shoma,mihanam,va azadi ro pazira bashid._____Behnam.
Burtsbluesboxes
Burtsbluesboxes 2nd May 2013 05:20 - 11 years ago
Behnamzandi, i like such instruments, where did u get the bagpipes? looking for vst bagpipes, think they sound really neat, Like this track good job, always interested in your new experiments! Don't cut any out! is it art? why yes it is!! it's very good art! keep these really neat experiments coming!
deciBel
deciBel replied 2nd May 2013 - 11 years ago
Hi my dear friend,and I wonder if you like such instruments too , and thnax alot about your kindnes comment,and about bagpipe,no doubt I will be glad if I can be usefull for each one of my friends & I'll write for U my email adress in a personal message now , and if I have your email adress I can send you something usefull about bagpipe (not VsT but royalty free loop pack)if U may think it can be usefull for U too.
appreciate your taken time & kind comment , as always my best wishes.Sincerely___Behnam.

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