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16th Aug 2013 01:25 - 11 years ago
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Description : Been working on a couple new tracks, this is one of them. I picked up Addictive Drums so this should be one of the last tracks with shitty drums. Going to be using that for drums for the next few tracks.

If anyone wants to contribute vocals be my guest. I don't know where to take this vocal wise. :)

Drums: Sample

Guitars and Bass:myself
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If you have time take a listen and give topvega some feedback.

soundhound
soundhound 5th Jun 2014 12:12 - 10 years ago
Nice work....Some tasty licks going on here...
Recording Guitars is tricky, because efx or compression can
cloud the overall signal and change it's dynamics, some want that
sound and some got it, don't want it and can't get rid of it....
What I do is record all my guitars No efx... Just volume that way if
it sounds good with nothing on it, when you add candy it's even better...
As well the signal response in the track, stands it's own ground and
takes it's place in the track, in a clean way...

If you know all of this, then I'm spitting into the wind so disregard...

Nice work and well done....

Peace...TG.
topvega
topvega replied 9th Jun 2014 - 10 years ago
Thanks TG. I do something similar. I am a tone whore so I usually find a tone that inspires me at the moment and record a dry signal direct from my guitar through a VST like Guitar Rig 5 or Amplitube 3. This way I preserve the original clean signal. Then I start working a riff into a whole song. I will add Bass and a lead and then tweak the levels. Then I like to switch my sound presets to other tones if anything I have doesn't sound good enough. Then once I have decided on my tones for all instruments I apply Iozone 5 to my Master and then go into each track and solo them and tweak their signal with a 5 band EQ. I then start adding the tracks together and listen for clashes and or deficiencies. I keep tweaking till I have it sounding good.

Thanks for taking the time to listen and leave a comment. I appreciate it.

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Orlando51
Orlando51 5th Jun 2014 10:04 - 10 years ago
Another great track from your rock cannons...I'm glad you're sticking to your style which I appreciate very much..:)

Rock on_____Orlando
topvega
topvega replied 9th Jun 2014 - 10 years ago
Thanks Orlando, the words of support are very kind. I am still tinkering with my style and trying to refine it but I am pretty happy with it on this one. I love trippy guitar leads. :)
Thanks again.

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StaticNomad
StaticNomad 17th Aug 2013 19:04 - 11 years ago
"Thanks man, appreciate the kind words. I am stoked to start working with Addictive Drums. Will be working on something this weekend.

Thanks for all your input, it helps. It's always good to get outside input and opinions. The support is highly appreciated."

No problem. I'll look out for a new track using Addictive Drums when you post it. I expect the drums to be much better and am sure they will be. I've just very briefly had a look at a review of AD and found this criticism: "It's not possible to have more than one kick, snare or ride cymbal in a kit."

The review was from 2007 but that's a bit annoying if (still) true.

I use Superior Drummer and you can add extra kit parts, which is great for mixing up the various add-on packs you buy (I have bought many).

With Addictive, what you might need to do is load a few instances of separate kits and then have a whole load of MIDI files on each track and just keep experimenting with moving them around until you get things to flow perfectly and sound quite distinctive. You might, for instance, want to have a different snare for verse and chorus so you can then try moving the MIDI parts between the different kits you have set up.

This is especially useful for someone like me who likes to mix up the genres and sort of force one on top of another. My detailed drum programming is a big part of that. Even if you just want to do straightish rock stuff, working with a lot of fills that you mix and match and edit and fine tune can really help make it sound as though you have a killer drummer rather than just a decent one, which is what you;d get if you lazily just used the MID files included in AD without much extra editing or layering.

Don't forget to pay close attention to your velocity levels of each kit piece. You can edit them in your sequencer. Sometimes, there's quite a heavy sound that plays at the top velocuty level (127) so sometimes you need to carefully reduce this (especially for snare and kick). The velocity levels of the playing is important for giving the right feel as the timing of the playing and the choice of kit part played.

If you don't already know all this, you'll probably find it out anyway but I thought I'd just give you a heads up and some things to think about early on. Ask me if any of this advice is not clear enough and I shall clarify...

Good luck!
topvega
topvega replied 18th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thanks for breaking it down bro...appreciated.

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mrwolf14
mrwolf14 16th Aug 2013 14:49 - 11 years ago
Hi TopVega,
Good song. I am not sure you need a vocal part: maybe a keyboard player who could keep your pace would be more beneficial than a singer. Just an idea...
Liked & downloaded it.
Take care, Domenico
topvega
topvega replied 17th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Hey Domenico, I think I agree with you on the no vocals. It's a little busy to be sung over. Will look into adding a keyboard or two to make up for no vocals. Appreciate the support and the input.

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StaticNomad
StaticNomad 16th Aug 2013 02:01 - 11 years ago
This is good and there's a definite song in there for a songwriter to make something of.

It builds and gets better over that first minute and those twin guitars work really well. Nice mix between the rhythm riffs and the lead psychedelic stuff.

Glad to hear you're getting Addictive Drums. I haven't used it but have other, similar hypersampled. I have many times on here recommended such software to producers as lower quality loops just don't cut it and you can do so much with these hypersampled acoustic drum products. Your stuff will be way better and new grooves and fills will give you ideas for riffs and how to progress your music.

While this track is a bit samey, it's all good stuff but would benefit from those Addictive drums and the proper song over the top. Keep going because it's well worth pursuing but there's still a long way to go to make it as good as it could and should be.
topvega
topvega replied 17th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thanks man, appreciate the kind words. I am stoked to start working with Addictive Drums. Will be working on something this weekend.

Thanks for all your input, it helps. It's always good to get outside input and opinions. The support is highly appreciated.

Thanks again...

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bbedford48
bbedford48 16th Aug 2013 01:56 - 11 years ago
Good strong track. I like it!
topvega
topvega replied 17th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thanks bro, I appreciate the support. Glad you enjoyed it.

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