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19th Sep 2013 22:08 - 11 years ago
Description : I can't sing because I am sick, so once again I tried my hand at putting loops together into a musical composition. I'm not very good at it, my attention span is short, and I have idea how to transition a song from a pad loop over to a different sound without losing the integrity of the song. Any advice would be helpful.

The royalty-free loops I used belong to the following Looperman musicians:

*The pad-
DANKE
www.looperman.com/loops/detail/65347

*Drums
STERIXX
www.looperman.com/loops/detail/65297

*Synthy Organ
NIGHTINGALE
www.looperman.com/loops/detail/65892

*Reversed ghost vocals
CUFOOL
www.looperman.com/loops/detail/55404

*Guitar
NIGHTINGALE
www.looperman.com/loops/detail/59452

*Flute
THEHUMPS
www.looperman.com/loops/detail/52164

Comments (26)

If you have time take a listen and give JJWeekz some feedback.

Nodog
Nodog 4th Nov 2017 08:41 - 7 years ago
JJ im just finding your stuff here at the loop and this is super regards Robbie
INFLOW
INFLOW 28th Jun 2015 17:51 - 9 years ago
It's past 4/20, lol. But seriously, it's a pretty chill track. I like it
Eighteen
Eighteen 28th Jun 2015 15:29 - 9 years ago
Nice, as short as this is, it is very powerfull,
really nice mix!

~Eighteen
PDMuzak
PDMuzak 25th Jan 2015 20:19 - 9 years ago
This kind of music is one of my favorites. Very Pink Floydish. Thanks for the music
FreeRadical
FreeRadical 24th Apr 2014 09:09 - 10 years ago
Psychadelic erotica sounds right up my street so i thought i'd give this one a whirl. Love the intro, reminds me a little of pink floyd.
Everything is splendidly mixed but why ony one and a half minutes? I was just getting into it then it faded out.
HMPH!!
XS09
XS09 26th Mar 2014 15:25 - 10 years ago
Hi!I totally forgot to check out your own songs.Sorry.I like this one alot.Nice ambience.Nice guitar and pad.Good work!
deciBel
deciBel 20th Mar 2014 00:09 - 10 years ago
just wanted to answer >>
oh yes ow yes yes it's superb & best news I've heared all these recently 3 months that soon U'll be a mother & in facT soon U'll be 2 parents !
oh Jenny I've always wished to have a daughter & similar to her mopther with green eyes ...
shit time goes so fast & I've got old & older (Nazanin too , she is 2 years older than me !)but still having a dream for
having a daughter because of this being always far far far...now , in my eyes , U & C bth have all the world for yourself...serendipitY for yourself ...and I' the first unseen friend who sends his hearty best wishes for your son who is coming soon & I beT he'll be a greaT musical tallent like both his parents . my friend please tell my hearty congratulation to 'C' for becoming a daddy too .
I reallY think U both are suitable to be good,logical and sane & succeeded parents ...
a smile , and congratulations & best wishes for mummy JJWeeks & her beloved one .___Behnam
Ziranmusic
Ziranmusic 19th Mar 2014 17:51 - 10 years ago
chill track ;D
crucethus
crucethus 19th Mar 2014 04:27 - 10 years ago
I hear a Floydian interlude on this one with a hip hop like beat. very nice!
Orlando51
Orlando51 19th Mar 2014 00:42 - 10 years ago
I love listening to longer pieces, but I like short pieces like this one as well!:)

Compliments____Orlando
beerling1970
beerling1970 1st Mar 2014 19:56 - 10 years ago
Hey you don't need help with much as this was so bloody amazing ....short but bloody amazing.

Steve
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 1st Mar 2014 03:55 - 10 years ago
Well, I've already given a fair bit of detail on transition suggestions so won't make anymore here.

Instead, I'll just second Valvedriver's simple but good advice.

This might work very nicely as an interlude, quite possibly an album intro.

I'd rather hear a longer, fuller version but maybe if you just bring in and drop out the same loops for about a minute more, it'll be a cool album intro for a couple of minutes.

I agree with Tumbleweed that there isn't anything wrong with your transitions. However, you did say you were lacking knowledge in how to make transitions so I thought I'd give a few basic suggestions, though it's hard to know if they'll be of any particular help here.

And I have no idea why Behnam doesn't hear the Pink Floyd similarity - it's obvious within about 3 seconds to me.

And the guitar is very Gilmour-esque.

Both of those are good things but there's much more than just Floyd going on here so not just a ripoff of their wonderful and truly groundbreaking style. That band is its own genre!
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 1st Mar 2014 02:10 - 10 years ago
Hey JJ...you don`t need any advice on your compositional thinking at all...and the transitions going on here are smooth & right on...I could have listened a lot longer...judging by the results I`d say just keep doing what you do...I know about the patience thing very well...I have trouble finishing what I`m doing a lot as my head picks up a new idea....well done on this one...Ed
ValveDriver
ValveDriver 1st Mar 2014 00:53 - 10 years ago
Granted, this is short. But, you can use that to your advantage. This would be a good interlude on an album. This would work well to transition between two tracks that wouldn't otherwise flow well. Or, you can take the same loops, rearrange them slightly and use the two different versions as "Bookends" to an album. I've done that before, when I had a track that was too cool to get rid of, but too short to stand alone.
As far as the arrangement goes, I really, REALLY like what you've done with it. It does have that Pink Floyd element to it. Normally, I don't make that comparison, because in my little world, Pink Floyd are on an untouchable pedestal. But, the proof is in the puddin'. Can't argue with what obviously is.
Good work.

Take care, and I wish for you, that the new arrival is happy and healthy.
V.
Danke
Danke 28th Feb 2014 23:55 - 10 years ago
What a mistake from me dear Lady!

I missed this beauty absolutely...my stupid blind one...moody track with the touch of the heartfelt woman...

Hope you too are fine...

Danke
Billydragon1
Billydragon1 28th Feb 2014 10:44 - 10 years ago
Dear Jenny,

Hope you're well and life is treating you kindly.
You will be a mother soon and new inspirations will surely flourish.

I hope you keep up your writing and continue to grace us with snippets of your voice at your convenience.
BTW - This was a good track and in particular the guitar I enjoyed. I am sure there is a full version somewhere among your compositions.

Be kind, stay strong, look to the sun and your shadows shall fall behind. Blessings.

- Forest Gump. :)
deciBel
deciBel 16th Feb 2014 20:13 - 10 years ago
Hi my tallented friends both . guys I wonder to see I had marked this track as fav buT I haven't left any feedback (reallY congrats for my wackY mind !) !so soory for latencY.
well What I heared was designed well & this is third time that your loops usage , Jenny,makes me wonder & find mre respects for your tallents .particualry finding no relevancy to Pinkfloyd (wonder to read that comment) .& I think there was many potentials in this considered & studied psyco atmospher , I'm not sure if does it sound sensual or noT buT beynd anything it had a cinematic flavour ,which made me reallY Like this . & I don't know what are U looking for with that collab request below track , buT If U allow I have some idea for expanding this composition buT I need your premission (I've downloaded it,but won't work on it before knowing your replY). also I can
send U my idea 2 days after your replY..anyway greatest respects & all the best & many thnX for sharing this smarT Idea .(ps : excuse me my friend buT is there any relevancy between U & JJWeeksBand site that I've found ?just think I knew that gentleman with friendlY & kind face & honest & intelligence eyes which was in the center of majoritY of photos,althoughT U know how wackY & even fool I am about knowing the faces in photos -oh gosh ! I'm still ashamed hahaha!).best wishes.___Behnam
JJWeekz
JJWeekz replied 28th Feb 2014 - 10 years ago
Behnam!

My friend, with a child on the way and new interests/hobbies/directions, I am not on here or in the music scene much.

But download and add to anything I post on here- no need to ask for permission.

I don't have the same email anymore as I was getting swamped by junk and requests and don't have time to comb through it all now. I am not ready to publicly share my new email, and would feel more comfortable being able to listen to whatever you come up with on my own time if you can upload it online.

Hope you and yours are well, we are here! It's a boy on the way!
larrywiggles1
larrywiggles1 16th Feb 2014 15:19 - 10 years ago
Apart from being a bit short this sounded good and was a great effort. It is always difficult putting loops together and getting transitions right is a fine art and sometimes there is a tendency to try and pack to much in, which can detract from the music. you have got the balance about right on this, well done and keep going.
Best wishes,
Mark/Larry!
JJWeekz
JJWeekz replied 28th Feb 2014 - 10 years ago
Thank you for this encouragement! It is quite the challenge stringing together loops only- especially since I have no instrumental talent and no knowledge of keys or notes except how it sounds to my ears. I am starting to grow a love for it though which helps as I learn slowly...very slowly. Maybe I will lengthen this if inspiration hits again soon! (danke always makes such great loops!!!)
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 6th Feb 2014 00:47 - 10 years ago
"I am very curious to hear your suggestions on transitions"

Oh wow, where do I begin? So much to suggest - depends how much you want me to write.

I make music based on a lot of jamming and then editing so not actually composing sections in advance in a traditional compositional sense. So, I end up with loads of transitions that need to be made smoother.

Sometimes I end up playing a new little part to get me from one section to the next but often I use drum fills and effects to smoothe things out.

If the feel in going from one bit to the next is awkward, if you distract the listener by making things extreme and powerful, this can help. So, a massive drum fill at the end of a bar - or maybe adding big reverb. Or delay at the end of the bar that rings out and decays (spills over) into the next. With delay, you'll often want to control the feedback control to make the delay more intense. You can automate that so it doesn't get too out of control.

Scrutinise your samples and see if you can find little parts that you can cut out and then expand further - these can be used for transitions. With my guitar playing takes, I look for little incidental bits I never consciously planned and then chop these bits out to make fun little fills or even loop them as full parts. See the intro to my track Knee Deep In The Cosmic Overwhelm to hear just a small incidental bit of guitar looped up into its own groovy part.

Reusing your material and finding other ways to stretch it out provides real continuity to the piece and sort of glues things together. I'm kind of like a hip hop sample/cutup guy, except the samples are all my own playing (apart from some drum loops I use).

The stop-start things with the drums was OK here if you're going to legnthen the piece and then bring those drums in to be heard without so much stop-start.

I hope some of those suggestions help though it's difficult to advise people when you don't know their software, their level of knowledge of what you're suggesting and so on. Ask if you want me to clarify anything.
JJWeekz
JJWeekz replied 28th Feb 2014 - 10 years ago
Late reply:
Thank you for this! My level of knowledge is low and software sucks, but this is a good start.
domr30
domr30 1st Feb 2014 04:59 - 10 years ago
dommage que se soi cour mes tres bien realiser domr
MagneticRecords
MagneticRecords 30th Jan 2014 16:31 - 10 years ago
Very mysterious, very nice, but a pity that it is too short.
JJWeekz
JJWeekz replied 30th Jan 2014 - 10 years ago
It is a pity, any suggestions would be helpful to me continuing on this as musical composition does not come naturally for me.
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 30th Jan 2014 14:28 - 10 years ago
Well I must say that I'm very surprised that in 4 comments no one has mentioned Pink Floyd.

This is very, very reminiscent of their legendary Shine On You Crazy Diamond. It's that classic organ as well as the guitar.

Separately, I think Shine On You Crazy Diamond may be just about the most popular ever song in which it takes nearly 9 minutes (!!!) for the vocals to come in. Check it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZDMcn33F4Q

Your track again: good beat that moves it away from PFloyd and I like the reverse vocals too.

They're all good elements though I think I would preferred a bit less start-stop with the beat. It's also way too short so you should lengthen this and then it will be more enjoyable. It's far out music (my favourite genre) so needs to be longer as this isn't long enough to really get into it and chill.

As for " I have [no] idea how to transition a song from a pad loop over to a different sound without losing the integrity of the song" I have loads of suggestions but will save them for another time.
JJWeekz
JJWeekz replied 30th Jan 2014 - 10 years ago
I am very curious to hear your suggestions on transitions, as this is the reason for my track being so short. I will certainly work on the start-stop factor.
theHumps
theHumps 11th Oct 2013 18:17 - 11 years ago
This is really cool, you put a few nice changes together and it has a new age music feel to me. I love this kind of music, atmospheric, ambient, a little trippy. I agree with sterixx, I wish it were longer, nice job!

Wayne
sterixx
sterixx 3rd Oct 2013 12:52 - 11 years ago
tooo Short ^^

Ghosty and chilly sounds, i really like it.

cheers Frank
DesignedImpression
DesignedImpression 30th Sep 2013 20:31 - 11 years ago
Hello JJW, fresh air longing for I hear in this. You say not very good, this is great! It appears dark but I've never heard anything lighter. I saw a house with a downhill driveway, sun beating rays burn the floor, a woman walking down the driveway barefoot. She appears to look cold while all around is burning up. Eyes didn't lie. Very interesting piece and good loop usage. Your layering is just right. You should do more when time is available. Thank you for sharing. Peace.
JJWeekz
JJWeekz replied 30th Sep 2013 - 11 years ago
Thanks friend! I really want to continue on this one, but I've exhausted all the loops in the 100bpm range which means now I have to hear for little snipits to slow or speed up in other bpms. Not sure how to continue this while breaking away from the repetitious pad but keeping the integrity of the song. Maybe the more I practice the more I'll understand how it works.
NuriB
NuriB 20th Sep 2013 04:23 - 11 years ago
I think it sounds incredible and with the sensual ambiance, it also has a fitting title.
JJWeekz
JJWeekz replied 30th Sep 2013 - 11 years ago
Thank you so much! Sensual was what I was going for, but often with music it is hard for me to create the mood I envision unless it's vocals. It was a cool fluke that it worked here.

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