Description : This track was inspired by a discussion at work. - Las Vegas has always been an onslaught of humanity. Even on its slowest days, the city is still crowded. And it goes twenty-four hours a day. Lights, sounds, movement. All of it is non-stop. - "Resident Evil - Extinction" presented a different look upon Glitter Gulch, a gambling tourist city that had been forgotten and wasted due to the end of times. - And that is what started our discussion at MORTradio. All of us here have visited Las Vegas, and have always enjoyed our time there. A lot of us here go back often. - One day, while we were embalming, all of us started talking about "end of the world" scenarios. We discussed other scenarios, such as ones like Matheson's "I am Legend", or Romero's living dead apocalypse, or Boyle's "28 Day/Weeks Later", or King's "The Stand", and we all started brainstorming as to how Las Vegas would stand if such a 'end-of-times' thing would actually happen. We agreed on this much. Whoever was trying to get out of Las Vegas, or get into it, would have to be straight forward and determined. That person would have to not think twice about leaving someone behind, or putting someone down. Seems kind of brutal, but it is the reality. - And so MORTradio came up with this track. - ROSINA DEAD VEGAS TREK was mixed on Magix Music Maker 2015, and was created using personal loops, as well as loops from the Looperman contributors that are listed below: - Chuckseabo - Hard Techno Bass
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Let me start with this
I realy love much of the different parts in this track.
You work with a lot of cool samples and most of them sounds great to me..... 0:00-0:10 is cool also 0:36-0:55 and 1:36-2:20 and 2:35-3:18 and 4:05-4:28
But i also have to say that there are some things i dont like to much right now (all the parts between). Means i think i would like them if you did some rework on them :)
But if i have to say something to this compleete track, then i would say - nice one, with intresting different sounds and things. Much happend and the song dont has any repitive parts.
Dont get me wrong but without your Description, i hadnt any zombie or end of world thing in my mind while listen. The problem for me right now is that i read it before and so i cant say what i had in mind if i had listen to the song without any information :) .... but that is realy not importan. For sure it is a cinematic track.
I enjoy the listen and hope i could help without give you a bad feeling, cause there is no reason for.
Thanks for taking the time to listen to the track, and for your feedback and comment. The track is not perfect, but I (we) do believe that overall it is an great track, and we are looking forward to doing more.
I liked how in The Stand how Vegas was the place where all the evil people got together. Seems to make sense that maybe there may be a chance of survival there during a zombie apocalypse. I mean, wouldn't the zombies dry up like mummies in the dry desert heat? In World War Z (book) people go north where the zombies freeze solid in the winter months :D Zombcicle :p Anything regarding the undead I love!! Had to come back for seconds and dl and fav this if I haven't already :D
The thing that appealed to me most in the apocalyptic story "The Stand" was the use of Las Vegas, not only for the symbolism of it being the dwelling for Flagg and the "bad" people, but also that it is place where the final battle for mankind (humanity, hope, etc.) takes place. I spent many years in Las Vegas (and still do spend a lot of time there), and my personal belief is that it beats out any other city in overall excitement, weirdness, and bad craziness.
Regarding the living dead existing in a dry desert climate, I won't go into my theories about that in this forum (since it is really not the proper place). I will say that if a zombie apocalypse were to take place, the dead would probably do well in the dry climate of the desert (since water/moisture is destructive to dead tissue....don't ask how I know, since that is a whole other topic).
I, too, have been interesting in the living dead for many years (and that is many, many, many years), and it is always cool to meet another fan of the living dead.
Thanks for the fav of the track, and as I stated in my last comment, I hope that this year's Halloween horror movie sound track forum thread will be up and running soon enough.
Thank you for your feedback. I think overall the track works as it experiments with a few different genres. It was somewhat edited with the mindset of someone splicing together different film takes (hence why I classify this track more as "Cinema Rock"). The main goal, though, is that will each submission to Looperman, each track becomes better because of the constructive criticism.
I think this track is nice. However the drums in the very beginning sounds a bit off beat to me. This track is a bit different from the things I normally listen to, so it was a interesting for me. Work on timing the track a bit better and you'll be good to go. Nice work.
Thanks for the feedback, critique, and encouragement. You are probably right regarding the timing being slightly off. Maybe not enough to completely ruin the track, but enough to perhaps hinder it nonetheless. It is something I have put into my notes to be more aware of when constructing other tracks (which hopefully will be soon when time permits).
I was grinning the whole time I was listening to this new Rosina track.
imagining you MORTradio guys engrossed in discussing end of the world scenarios and also enjoying experimenting on different loops with this track. Keep doing what you're doing! Can't wait for more MORTradio music! :)
As always, we all thank you for your support and positive vibes. After hearing our last collaboration, as well as the other great collaboration with fellow Looperman artists, we are big fans of your work and talent, and hope to hear more from you as well.
Thank you for your comment. Yes, Las Vegas has always been an inspiration to me, and it is a great town that is loved by all of us here at MORTradio. This track is experimental in a few ways, and if I had the chance to label it properly, I would have listed it under "Cinematic Rock". I would by lying if I said that it didn't still need some work, and I take all feedback seriously so that future endeavors will be even more successful.
Hey, sorry if you felt I was being dismissive of your track. Let me explain a little more to help you understand what I meant. I am referring to context. The big picture. Songwriting and composing. Whether experimental or not there are some things that can make or break a song idea. My analogy would be like putting an earth tone rug in a room with pastel colors painted on the wall. The bottom line is sometimes things don't work, no matter how much time and effort we put into that idea.
For instance, you listened to my latest song in which I used live instruments for the most part. I used a harmonica in places where the Bee Gees used harp or orchestration of some sort. If I had chose a saw synth instead of the harmonica, playing the exact notes and melody, would it fit in the context of the big picture of the song? Probably not. The choice of instrument would be too synthetic sounding and would certainly bring a few comments about using a saw synth in a song using live instruments from some of the loopers. I chose strings and a trombone vsti to back my live instruments. Those sound appropriate for the track. Once again, context within the big picture.
Just trying to help with some constructive criticism. I know there are a million ways to put music together and I certainly don't discourage experimentation. I was unaware the song was experimental. From the description I read it to be a major sound scape production of your scenario. I was just pointing out some things I noticed that stood out to me that could help with that production.
I am glad that we have our dialogue so we may have this open discussion regarding this track. Believe me (us) when I say that I take your feedback seriously, and give complete credence to each point you make. I was at no time angered, or upset, by your criticism regarding this track. My only concern was to be taken seriously as to the effort put forth by any projects done by me and/or MORTradio. Although I am humbled by many of the musical talent that resides on Looperman, I do nonetheless put for serious work when submitting to Looperman, if for any other reason, out of respect for them.
You have great experience and an exceptional talent, and therefore when you have something to say about my work I put forth on Looperman, I am definitely going to listen. As I said in my earlier comment, each of your points regarding this particular track were valid, and I took each one of them sincerely. Trial and error is the name of the game, and with each track, I hope to gain a bit more insight and knowledge from individuals such as yourself.
I will continue to enjoy your work and will always welcome all your advice and comments.
You may find this interesting :D https://www.looperman.com/forum/thread/182429/looperman-zombie-apocalypse I think a zombie apocalypse is plausible. In Resident evil, Umbrella was messing with bio engineering, kind of like what scientists are doing now... Keep experimenting, GREAT things come out of it :D well, sometimes, as long as you're not making monsters !! ;) Maybe turn the drums up in the mix a bit, I like to really hear/feel the kick, and back off the guitar just a bit as it seems to overpower, just my opinion, but sounds good :p
What an completely creative and unique forum thread. Obviously, your forum thread concept (a suggested film scenario and artist 'fill-in' the soundtrack) is not limited to the "zombie apocalypse", but I definitely wouldn't mind if it was (I am biased, as you probably could tell).
You set the general scenario, and the soundtrack began to form from various Looperman artist, each one with their own taken on the general scenario you created. Excellent idea, and one that could actually work for someone that is creating an independent, guerrilla, low budget film.
Again, this is why Looperman and Creative Commons are so great, because it allows so many people to come together to create unique visuals and soundscapes.
Interesting idea and blend of sounds, a bit all over the place. Not my usual listening style. I thought the track had some issues. Some sounds are random and a bit forced into the track like the vocal sample at 2:20 and the ooh aha vocals around 3:00. I would get rid of that guitar sound at the beginning, it's not real guitar and it doesn't really add anything to the track. The guitar transition at about 3:25 needs a little work to smooth it out. Maybe ease off the limiting to give things some breathing room.
The song really needs some focus, it is kinda all over the place. You have dance vocals in a rock song with an electronic feel. I don't know your history of music, you seem new here, this may be just a fun hobby. I tried to be constructive, hope it didn't come off as bashing your track. It is just a weird collection of loops that seems to work at some level, lol.
I (we) don't feel at all as though you were "bashing" the track that I submitted. You took the time to evaluate the track, and gave your input, which we could not thannk you enough for. Obviously, with your own personal background in music, your input is more than valid in its regards, and if I was to re-edit the track, I would definitely use your points in my notes regarding any re-working of this track.
Nonetheless, although your critical points are valid, I do feel as though you are dismissive of the entire track as though it was thrown together for shit and giggles, which was far from the case. It is experimental, that is for sure, and being experimental, there is always a chance that certain aspects of the track would not work. Perhaps the lack of focus comes from the cinematic editing mindset that I have during editing. Perhaps I look at musical loops as filmed scenes that can be edited together to get a character from point A to point B. I am not saying that is the right way to edit musical tracks, but it was how I was looking at it during the making of it.
On a side note, my history of music is limited to playing banjo (Gibson Mastertone) for approximately 20 years, and bass (Hofner Violin Bass) for about half that time. I wanted to learn guitar more (my biggest influence was Poison Ivy from The Cramps), but work seemed to suck up most of my time, so that fell to the waist side. Actually working with a computer audio mixer has only be about a year and a half. As far as joining the Looperman site, I am a noob (less than six months).
Anyway, enough of my long winded rambling. Again, thanks for your input and feedback, and for listening to the track.
Thank you for allow your creative loops to be use in this track. Your loops really stand out (at least for us), and we are hoping to use more of your loops, and hope we will hear more from you as as well.
Hey this is cool and interesting, and even more interesting was reading your profile a moment ago. I can't help but think about what I've been watching in the evenings, or should I say re-watching, as I've seen the whole "Six Feet Under" series about 6 times now. One of my favorite shows ever. I'm no mortician, but I can't help but see/feel the death and mourning all around us each day. I think you've captured the theme you described quite expertly, especially considering you used loops to do it. Fun and extreme track. Lets hope for end of humanity so we can see if this theme is reality. Thank you for sharing! Fave!
Thanks for you feedback regarding this track. It is an obvious statement when I say that the only reason that this track even exist (good or bad) is because of the creativity of many people who contribute to this site. I think much of the thanks goes to them.
Thanks also for taking the time out to actually read the MORTradio profile. Yes, all of us here at MORTradio are morticians (all eight of us, licensed in embalming and funeral directing). The show "Six Feet Under" does give a tiny glimpse in the world of undertaking, but it really isn't that accurate. None of us here really watched the show that much since we are living it. Actually, we watched a lot more of the reality series "Family Plots" since we all knew the people and what they were really like (at least on a professional level). You are right when you say that there is death around us each day, but like they say, darkness always makes the light so much brighter.
I have listened to your tracks as well, and have always enjoyed the ones I have heard. I hope you will continue to submit so we can here more.
P.S. This week we are playing Siouxsie and the Banshees in the preprooms we go to (my favorite by them is "Dear Prudence"). Maybe I am wrong, but I get a feeling you are a Siouxsie and the Banshee fan....
hey. nice combination of loops. and your track description is quite... extensive (which is cool). But I do not buy it all at all. Overall it is a house track. Could be rock as well. You have guitars and synths there so anything goes. Overall the vocals are quite weird sounding (I do not mind the panning) especially around 2:57. Uhhh Aha?
Are these bass additions at the end announce another track btw? Looking forwart(d) to hear it.
Thanks for taking the time out and listening to the track, and for giving us your feedback regarding the track. As I had said in an earlier reply, this was an experimental track. I do have to admit that there are weak points in the track, but overall works.
I do not know if you are questioning whether a discussion is what brought forth me creating the track, but that is the actual reason. A lot of our conversations while we are working at various mortuaries are regarding movies (usually horror), and obviously the Romero zombie world (yes, we all actually went to the Zombie Run at Comic Con a couple of years ago). Again, as described in the track's description, the whole idea came from what we thought would look cool on film if a zombie apocalypse happened in Las Vegas. Weird, yes, but true. I wish I could have labeled the track under the category of "Cinematic Rock" because that what I feel it is. Maybe I am wrong for calling it that, but that was my concept nonetheless.
Lastly, the bass additions do not announce another track. Maybe they should? hmmm....
Thanks again for your time and feedback. Looking forward to more discussions.
P.S. Just finished listening to your soundcloud track "Oceanically - Vegas Hotel (feat Promenade)". Very cool. Very dark and David Lynchish.
Thank you for your comment. Although we here at MORTradio put a lot of work into this track, it is obvious that a great amount of the credit also goes to the many artists that have contributed to Looperman. Without them, this track would not exist.
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Let me start with this
I realy love much of the different parts in this track.
You work with a lot of cool samples and most of them sounds great to me..... 0:00-0:10 is cool also 0:36-0:55 and 1:36-2:20 and 2:35-3:18 and 4:05-4:28
But i also have to say that there are some things i dont like to much right now (all the parts between). Means i think i would like them if you did some rework on them :)
But if i have to say something to this compleete track, then i would say - nice one, with intresting different sounds and things. Much happend and the song dont has any repitive parts.
Dont get me wrong but without your Description, i hadnt any zombie or end of world thing in my mind while listen. The problem for me right now is that i read it before and so i cant say what i had in mind if i had listen to the song without any information :) .... but that is realy not importan. For sure it is a cinematic track.
I enjoy the listen and hope i could help without give you a bad feeling, cause there is no reason for.
stay tuned
joe
Regarding the living dead existing in a dry desert climate, I won't go into my theories about that in this forum (since it is really not the proper place). I will say that if a zombie apocalypse were to take place, the dead would probably do well in the dry climate of the desert (since water/moisture is destructive to dead tissue....don't ask how I know, since that is a whole other topic).
I, too, have been interesting in the living dead for many years (and that is many, many, many years), and it is always cool to meet another fan of the living dead.
Thanks for the fav of the track, and as I stated in my last comment, I hope that this year's Halloween horror movie sound track forum thread will be up and running soon enough.
congrats______Orlando
I like the intro very nicely laid out.
Overall it is a good track.
Well done
Jamid
Thanks again for your post.
imagining you MORTradio guys engrossed in discussing end of the world scenarios and also enjoying experimenting on different loops with this track. Keep doing what you're doing! Can't wait for more MORTradio music! :)
For instance, you listened to my latest song in which I used live instruments for the most part. I used a harmonica in places where the Bee Gees used harp or orchestration of some sort. If I had chose a saw synth instead of the harmonica, playing the exact notes and melody, would it fit in the context of the big picture of the song? Probably not. The choice of instrument would be too synthetic sounding and would certainly bring a few comments about using a saw synth in a song using live instruments from some of the loopers. I chose strings and a trombone vsti to back my live instruments. Those sound appropriate for the track. Once again, context within the big picture.
Just trying to help with some constructive criticism. I know there are a million ways to put music together and I certainly don't discourage experimentation. I was unaware the song was experimental. From the description I read it to be a major sound scape production of your scenario. I was just pointing out some things I noticed that stood out to me that could help with that production.
Hope this helps clarify my last post.
I would also love to get a banjo. Keep playing!
Wayne
You have great experience and an exceptional talent, and therefore when you have something to say about my work I put forth on Looperman, I am definitely going to listen. As I said in my earlier comment, each of your points regarding this particular track were valid, and I took each one of them sincerely. Trial and error is the name of the game, and with each track, I hope to gain a bit more insight and knowledge from individuals such as yourself.
I will continue to enjoy your work and will always welcome all your advice and comments.
What an completely creative and unique forum thread. Obviously, your forum thread concept (a suggested film scenario and artist 'fill-in' the soundtrack) is not limited to the "zombie apocalypse", but I definitely wouldn't mind if it was (I am biased, as you probably could tell).
You set the general scenario, and the soundtrack began to form from various Looperman artist, each one with their own taken on the general scenario you created. Excellent idea, and one that could actually work for someone that is creating an independent, guerrilla, low budget film.
Again, this is why Looperman and Creative Commons are so great, because it allows so many people to come together to create unique visuals and soundscapes.
Bravo to you.
The song really needs some focus, it is kinda all over the place. You have dance vocals in a rock song with an electronic feel. I don't know your history of music, you seem new here, this may be just a fun hobby. I tried to be constructive, hope it didn't come off as bashing your track. It is just a weird collection of loops that seems to work at some level, lol.
Wayne
Nonetheless, although your critical points are valid, I do feel as though you are dismissive of the entire track as though it was thrown together for shit and giggles, which was far from the case. It is experimental, that is for sure, and being experimental, there is always a chance that certain aspects of the track would not work. Perhaps the lack of focus comes from the cinematic editing mindset that I have during editing. Perhaps I look at musical loops as filmed scenes that can be edited together to get a character from point A to point B. I am not saying that is the right way to edit musical tracks, but it was how I was looking at it during the making of it.
On a side note, my history of music is limited to playing banjo (Gibson Mastertone) for approximately 20 years, and bass (Hofner Violin Bass) for about half that time. I wanted to learn guitar more (my biggest influence was Poison Ivy from The Cramps), but work seemed to suck up most of my time, so that fell to the waist side. Actually working with a computer audio mixer has only be about a year and a half. As far as joining the Looperman site, I am a noob (less than six months).
Anyway, enough of my long winded rambling. Again, thanks for your input and feedback, and for listening to the track.
Thanks again.
Thanks also for taking the time out to actually read the MORTradio profile. Yes, all of us here at MORTradio are morticians (all eight of us, licensed in embalming and funeral directing). The show "Six Feet Under" does give a tiny glimpse in the world of undertaking, but it really isn't that accurate. None of us here really watched the show that much since we are living it. Actually, we watched a lot more of the reality series "Family Plots" since we all knew the people and what they were really like (at least on a professional level). You are right when you say that there is death around us each day, but like they say, darkness always makes the light so much brighter.
I have listened to your tracks as well, and have always enjoyed the ones I have heard. I hope you will continue to submit so we can here more.
P.S. This week we are playing Siouxsie and the Banshees in the preprooms we go to (my favorite by them is "Dear Prudence"). Maybe I am wrong, but I get a feeling you are a Siouxsie and the Banshee fan....
Are these bass additions at the end announce another track btw? Looking forwart(d) to hear it.
Best wishes,
A.
I do not know if you are questioning whether a discussion is what brought forth me creating the track, but that is the actual reason. A lot of our conversations while we are working at various mortuaries are regarding movies (usually horror), and obviously the Romero zombie world (yes, we all actually went to the Zombie Run at Comic Con a couple of years ago). Again, as described in the track's description, the whole idea came from what we thought would look cool on film if a zombie apocalypse happened in Las Vegas. Weird, yes, but true. I wish I could have labeled the track under the category of "Cinematic Rock" because that what I feel it is. Maybe I am wrong for calling it that, but that was my concept nonetheless.
Lastly, the bass additions do not announce another track. Maybe they should? hmmm....
Thanks again for your time and feedback. Looking forward to more discussions.
P.S. Just finished listening to your soundcloud track "Oceanically - Vegas Hotel (feat Promenade)". Very cool. Very dark and David Lynchish.