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OK yes there it is. Nice panning , nice spatial sounds, better control on the Piano re-verbs. Vocals sound nice, bass is better and the percussion fits well. Minimalist perfection. Only thing I would do different is at $;$7 drop the piano and let the vox go accapella and only at the very end do that nice synth thing to end it with the final vocal (sting) Great job though very nice
Steve
Hi Steve and thanks again for the feedback! I'm really not satisfied with this one, I accidently compressed away all the dynamics, at least in my ears. But it was a great lesson to try to fix it anyway.
And I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Maybe I'll have an other go some day and tweak it even more.
Cheers!
It's great that you updated this one in a short time. Impressive how it is different
0:20 - very nice bassline, it sounds like a guitar. I do not like the synth on the left channel very much - it is filling the harmony but somehow it could sound brighter/sharper, at least to me.
0:50 - introducing single piano riff was good and it corresponds nicely with the vox
1:09 - there' is a slight distortion on the vocal track, probably caused again by the compression.
0:17 - your piano sounds like played from the distance and it has some 'pumping' qualities in this particular mix context. Which plugin did you use? Maybe it is good to reduce the reverb and delay. You can also render the single piano track without the effects then import the mixdown and work with the audio only. I do that a lot. The entire project will be definitely played much more stable inside your DAW when you remove plugins.
The section starting from around 1:17 may need some adjustments. Snare drum could be louder as well as percussions.
1:58 - new synth but it has quite similar color to the bassline. You can always find some fitting funky guitar loop or something similar here. It might help to fill the space and change positively the feel of the music. .
2:37 - kick is nice but you can introduce some other elements too. There is a synth from 2:50 but it again needs more presence (in my opinion). To me the vocal sounds wide - the rest quite narrow. Also you might consider enhancing hihats and other percussions.
Why do not play let's say a bassline and piano tracks only for example? Then maybe try observe (by ear) the actual space in the frequency range available for each instrument and see how they eventually 'clash' inside the mix. You can somehow separate them. It might be difficult because you tend to use too much of reverb and delay effects. Did you equalize instruments using eq-plugin's presets? It may help a lot - I use presets for eqing sometimes as well.
I hope some of this is useful. Those are just my opinions so do not take it too seriously haha
Congratulations on developing the arrangement into such a nice thing. I enjoyed listening!
Best, Alex
Hi Alex, ha ha you really are dedicated to music, I can tell. Thanks a lot for all the advice and giving me an idea of what to do with this.
I tried to fix the distortion and pumping issues with mixing down again, rendering to audio files and panning and rearranging and...puuuuuh also tride my hand on a simple mastering with the FL Limiter and...oh no now I forgot the name of the other plug in. Anyway - the result isn't that good but I really, really learned some new things! So it was definitely worth the effort, and kind of fun also.
So thanks again.
Cheers!
panning instruments will help with the overwhelming of each other. Each instrument should get it's own space. Like double the piano track for example, then pan them out 40 percent each R and L. I double the drums and pan 20 percent R and L.Vocals center. bass center or 10 percent panned L and R to widen it. All personal preference as for how much, which instrument ect. but it helps. Practice makes perfect :p Sounds good. Vocals line up nicely, and I know that can be a challenge sometimes! :D
Very fine work on this one! You are making a significant progressions with your music and I entirely agree with all crucethus' remarks. I want add the 'pumping' issue overkill. It is noticable at 0:50 and 1:04 when excessive compression affects the mix.
At least this is what I can hear on headphones. Also I'd love to have more dynamics and natural presence of the instruments but that's just my prefference.
Apart of all that your choice of vocals in fine and I really liked the entire arrangement. It is a lovely song. Best, Alex
Hi Alex, nice to see you here!
Pumping issue - noticed. I'm trying to improve this today. the problem is my CPU, it's already clipping in the DAW...hard to fix anything.
More Dynamics noted also, I'll try.
I love the arrangement in this track. You strip it back and throw it all back in at the right moments. The play between the vocals and the piano is what really makes the track so interesting. Definitely a favorite.
Hey SJ
What I like: 1. The intro is very eclectic and what I like in a song that I personally like to listen too.
2. You have started to develop a better sense for arranging in a tasteful way. To explain that I still hear your distinctive piano sound with the slap delay but it sits much better in the mix now and it adds to the composition and doesn't overwhelm it as in some of your earlier creations, bravo, you kept a distinctive trait and made it a strength in your work now.
3. You fit the vocals in perfectly timing wise and in the mix.
What I would like to see different:
1. There is a lot of dynamic compression which hurts the delicate musical sounds you have placed in the piece. like that sweet oboe sounds a bit choppy with the delay of the piano and such.
2. Though getting better I would like to hear more distinctive bass-lines throughout the piece. I heard some sub bass and hints of bass here and there.
3. Your choice of vocals is not very inspiring to me, but that's just my personal taste I guess. I think for your style of composing I want to hear a vocalist who can belt it out of the park, but I realize that we won't find that easily on the pella pages. (no offense to Virginia slimm)
Over all it's a great job you did on this one and just a pleasure to hear your sounds and choices getting better and better. Good Work.
Cru
Thanks Steve for the advice!
Yes there is big issue with some of the sounds overwhelming all the others, and the bass line is totally underneath everything else and nonexisting at the moment. I'll try to fix this!
Long time no see, I'm glad you're back...and what a treat!!
This sounds simply fantastic...it just sucks you in and leaves you without a breath! Excellent! My 'fav' is here!:)
Hej igen Orlando, and thank you!
The minute I got my computer back with a DAW in it I started again. It's horrible without composing, listening is not enough.
Description : My grandmother was from Belarus. She was the lone survivor of her family after the Waffen SS massacred everyone in her village during a retreat from the Red Army. She escaped soviet occupied Belarus & through a series of wranglings by the international red cross, found a family to adopt her in New Jersey in 1947. She was 14 years old then. She was the strongest person I ever knew & I miss her terribly. This song is for her.
Description : Not really 'industrial' although some aspects might fit with the genre...generally robots and stuff...hehe...and a hint of heavy metal is also there...:)
Description : I used Serum and Sylenth1 to create all the synths and basslines. It's not dubstep, and it's not Drum and Bass, but it's elements are heavily drawn from both to create an experimental industrial track in it's own class. It's heavy, aggressive, and driving. Either you will like it, or you won't. I don't think there will be an in-between. Take care. V.
Description : It's probably the Darkest Mix I have ever done. Industrial Gothic Lumbering Tune at 90BPM in the style of Nine inch Nails Meets Spahn Ranch.
Description : Another weird blending of genres I am working on. Track was all composed by myself using some sampling and an old 1983 Memphis Strat of which I am totally rusty on due to a serious left hand/wrist injury several years back.
Description : Genre:oldschool game/industrial etc.Fl Studio 9
(I will make available the samples used in this song,I exported in loops, wav format.)
At the forum.
Or if you prefer, just ask for the comments.
Description : I uploaded this to my SoundCloud a while ago and fully love this Aggrotech piece and would hope you lot would too, some feedback would be sick as hell :)
Description : Made this years ago as I was changing from Windows 98 to Windows XP. Hard to remember now but XP was one of the greatest leaps forward for home pc users and the stability was so welcome when trying to put this together.
This is purely industrial sounds of machines and tools.
My aim was to make them sound like synths drums guitars and humans. Took me months. The amount of editing and twisting these sounds up down faster slower etc etc to get rythm well I'm sure you can imagine.
Deleted it recently but having just listened to an industrial track someone has put on here I fancy getting back to some serious dirt!
Steve
And I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Maybe I'll have an other go some day and tweak it even more.
Cheers!
It's great that you updated this one in a short time. Impressive how it is different
0:20 - very nice bassline, it sounds like a guitar. I do not like the synth on the left channel very much - it is filling the harmony but somehow it could sound brighter/sharper, at least to me.
0:50 - introducing single piano riff was good and it corresponds nicely with the vox
1:09 - there' is a slight distortion on the vocal track, probably caused again by the compression.
0:17 - your piano sounds like played from the distance and it has some 'pumping' qualities in this particular mix context. Which plugin did you use? Maybe it is good to reduce the reverb and delay. You can also render the single piano track without the effects then import the mixdown and work with the audio only. I do that a lot. The entire project will be definitely played much more stable inside your DAW when you remove plugins.
The section starting from around 1:17 may need some adjustments. Snare drum could be louder as well as percussions.
1:58 - new synth but it has quite similar color to the bassline. You can always find some fitting funky guitar loop or something similar here. It might help to fill the space and change positively the feel of the music. .
2:37 - kick is nice but you can introduce some other elements too. There is a synth from 2:50 but it again needs more presence (in my opinion). To me the vocal sounds wide - the rest quite narrow. Also you might consider enhancing hihats and other percussions.
Why do not play let's say a bassline and piano tracks only for example? Then maybe try observe (by ear) the actual space in the frequency range available for each instrument and see how they eventually 'clash' inside the mix. You can somehow separate them. It might be difficult because you tend to use too much of reverb and delay effects. Did you equalize instruments using eq-plugin's presets? It may help a lot - I use presets for eqing sometimes as well.
I hope some of this is useful. Those are just my opinions so do not take it too seriously haha
Congratulations on developing the arrangement into such a nice thing. I enjoyed listening!
Best, Alex
I tried to fix the distortion and pumping issues with mixing down again, rendering to audio files and panning and rearranging and...puuuuuh also tride my hand on a simple mastering with the FL Limiter and...oh no now I forgot the name of the other plug in. Anyway - the result isn't that good but I really, really learned some new things! So it was definitely worth the effort, and kind of fun also.
So thanks again.
Cheers!
It's not sounding that good anyway but I learned a lot!
Ha ha...
Cheers!
Very fine work on this one! You are making a significant progressions with your music and I entirely agree with all crucethus' remarks. I want add the 'pumping' issue overkill. It is noticable at 0:50 and 1:04 when excessive compression affects the mix.
At least this is what I can hear on headphones. Also I'd love to have more dynamics and natural presence of the instruments but that's just my prefference.
Apart of all that your choice of vocals in fine and I really liked the entire arrangement. It is a lovely song. Best, Alex
Pumping issue - noticed. I'm trying to improve this today. the problem is my CPU, it's already clipping in the DAW...hard to fix anything.
More Dynamics noted also, I'll try.
Thanks!
TA
Thanks for the listen and the great comment.
Cheers/ SJ =)
What I like: 1. The intro is very eclectic and what I like in a song that I personally like to listen too.
2. You have started to develop a better sense for arranging in a tasteful way. To explain that I still hear your distinctive piano sound with the slap delay but it sits much better in the mix now and it adds to the composition and doesn't overwhelm it as in some of your earlier creations, bravo, you kept a distinctive trait and made it a strength in your work now.
3. You fit the vocals in perfectly timing wise and in the mix.
What I would like to see different:
1. There is a lot of dynamic compression which hurts the delicate musical sounds you have placed in the piece. like that sweet oboe sounds a bit choppy with the delay of the piano and such.
2. Though getting better I would like to hear more distinctive bass-lines throughout the piece. I heard some sub bass and hints of bass here and there.
3. Your choice of vocals is not very inspiring to me, but that's just my personal taste I guess. I think for your style of composing I want to hear a vocalist who can belt it out of the park, but I realize that we won't find that easily on the pella pages. (no offense to Virginia slimm)
Over all it's a great job you did on this one and just a pleasure to hear your sounds and choices getting better and better. Good Work.
Cru
Yes there is big issue with some of the sounds overwhelming all the others, and the bass line is totally underneath everything else and nonexisting at the moment. I'll try to fix this!
Cheers =)
it's very beautifull .
I really enjoyed .
nice composition ,wonderfull vocal .
congrats.
:)
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers!
Long time no see, I'm glad you're back...and what a treat!!
This sounds simply fantastic...it just sucks you in and leaves you without a breath! Excellent! My 'fav' is here!:)
Compliments_____Orlando
The minute I got my computer back with a DAW in it I started again. It's horrible without composing, listening is not enough.
Just downloaded your brilliant song - thanks!
the vocals very catchy.
DB
A great nick name by the way. =)