Description : I discovered Meshuggah around 2003 and was blown away by the power, complexity and super Heavy sound of their music. Their "Nothing" album marked the switch to 8 string guitars and pushed Heavy Metal into a whole new territory. My track is a variant cover of their song "Nebulous". I have stayed pretty close to the original but added a few dynamic elements of my own. Its loud, its super heavy and way out there...Beyond Nebulous.
I’ve liked Meshuggah since their beginning. Still do. In fact I dig the whole Djent genre. I love the broken rhythms and f’ked up time signatures. It’s not a real melodic genre, per se. but the percussive assault is one to really dig. Personally, I would go as far to say that Sepultura started that whole genre with “Roots, Bloody Roots”. They just weren’t using the 8string god sent from....wherever. But judging by the darkness of this tune, I’d say some suburb of hell.
Personally, I would love to get lost in the darkness of this tune. That shit is, for a lack of better terms when describing darkness, quite pleasant.
I’m not going to go into a Static sized breakdown on this one, I will say that the production is awesome. The tones you managed to achieve are true to the genre. Damn. I wish I could play live instruments, man. This makes my latest one sound like chicken scratch, dude. The layering is impeccable. The drone in the background is sitting perfect in the mix. It’s loud enough to hold everything together, and fill the blanks where it could become boring, (to the ears of those who don’t appreciate the genre), but it’s not so loud that it’s distracting. The sustained notes in the leads really work. I’ve always been a fan of that. Sustained, slow hand leads over choppy, chuggy rythyms.
Yep. You got yourself a winner, here, bud. I fav’d it so I can download it later. This one is going on the playlist.
Hey Aaron, thanks so much for the comment man and I do apologize for the delayed response. Yeah man this one was quite a bit of work to get worthy. You know when your working on a track you listen to it over and over so much. I actually had to stop working on this for awhile because I got to where I think it was effecting me psychologically. Not sure if its because of the dark nature of it or simply being that I was a bit exhausted. I hope its the latter ! But its so weird that right after working on this the equipment I used to make it was stolen, so uh, yeah I took it as a sign and layed off the dark stuff for a while. I do love Meshuggah and progressive metal. Its so heavy, I totally dig it!
yep just downloaded this awesome tune!!!!Man you are fridge talented!!!!!I love your music.I love your sound on this very messhuggahish!Man i have 2 8 strings steph 8 and an rg8so much fun!Love to throw a riff at you some time and write a tune together!if your keen
Hey bro ! Thanks for the awesome comment man. I'm huge on Meshuggah, they blew me away when I first heard them. I had a Schecter Blackjack ATX C8 that I used here but sadly that and my Axe FX II were stolen several months ago when I had left them in a friends studio over night during some recording. I've been making due with my other guitars but contemplating on replacing it or changing to the Omen or even maybe going with an extended range 7 string. Yeah man I haven't really done any collaborations here but would certainly entertain doing something together. I think we have a lot of common interest musically. Hit me up anytime.
Hey Neo every now and then i come to a crossroads where i notice something and i follow it for a while until another crossroads appears here is my crossroad provided by you and this superb track. I checked out Meshuggah too heavy for my baby taste at the moment i find this more palatable but i will now build up to the full undiluted Meshuggah :) Best regards peaceout Robbie.
Oh no, don't get me wrong - I thought it was a really well made track, just not my preferred heavy style. I thought my detailed review demonstrated that I thought it was good. My musical tastes are somewhat separate from my evaluation of a track. And you don't make music to entertain me (and vice versa).
"the inability of playing power chords. They sound terrible with the low tuning."
That makes sense as I guess it's a bit like strumming mid to high chords on bass guitar (though that can also be effective). But you could play those same chords beyond the 12th fret. I know that's not the most comfortable sort of chord playing position but it could be done. And stop ot from sounding so low and messy. I'm sure you've given it a go.
" the cymbals were washing out and again I'm noticing it."
I didn't really notice but if it's bothering you, I guess you need to find a way to fix it. Or just get it closer to what you want.
"the Looperman version has dramatically effected the dynamics"
Not sure I've heard that before. I thought it was supposed to be exactly the same, no artifacts introduced.
"Maybe my next track will be more to your liking."
It might be but I really wouldn't worry if it's not.
My country track has been put on the back burner, partly because my latest one is going rather well. It's drum 'n' cell - d'n'b with loads of one particular instrument. It's fun and far out and you'll probably like it.
Sorry for the delayed response, I wasn't expecting a regreeting on this. The holidays has consumed a lot of my free time. Regarding the dynamics issue, I found that I had accidently added a limiter to the master track somehow (?) so the fault was entirely mine and sorry for even questioning Looperman. I removed it and re-uploaded like the next day so what you've heard is the fixed version. No man, no butt hurt on my part, I don't expect people to like all my tracks. I enjoy the constructive criticism as much as the praising which we all know is sometimes not as genuine. Hope you enjoy the holidays !
Not big on djent, but you got a good sound here. Doom filled chugs and clean dissonance. Sounds like a beast conveying it's displeasure with all around it. I can't fault anything here, just not my thing. Very evil, but I like aggression in my evilsoup. Production is awesome and sounds like there is a lot of money behind it in studio time. Rather well done!!!
Hey Evan, I hope I haven't scared everybody off with my last few uploads. They are somewhat dark and evil sounding which is of course the result of such low resonance. And for that reason its easier to compose these type of tracks. I'm working on some more melodic stuff and hopefully will have something a bit more appealing next time. Thanks for the comments man, always appreciated.
I'm not a fan of Meshuggah (just too heavy and lacking in melody for me) but I think about them fairly often as I have Tomas Haake's Metalheads EZX and use it quite often, not only in heavy tracks. I used some of Haake's MIDI files for some of the "criminally insane" drumming that you liked in my Fist Bumps Of Fury track (especially early in the track).
I'm really, really bad with time signatures so I don't really know what 23/16 time is. But I do know I get something quite distinctive from his crazy MIDI files. Most of them are banging away on cymbals so not a lot of hat work.
Anyway:
0:10 that's quite a cool little industrial flourish and I like the slightly vocally drone synth underneath, changing note on 0:28.
0:15 and here's that heavy djent thud and overall fat sound. This already sounds well produced, as does all your stuff these days, I believe.
This does sound like there's some evil, clanging, octave-jumping bass guitar in it. I guess that's all just guitar. But it is a detuned 8 string so that makes sense.
1:19 and that lead guitar is a welcome addition as sitting on that thudding djent riff was getting a bit samey.
3:02 fuck that's dark and evil. Really wide guitars.
3:16 like an ogre groaning. Or metal vocalist grunting away.
The lead work on top here makes it more far out and psychedelic. In a dark, unsettling way.
This second half seems more powerful than the first.
As I said, Meshuggah isn't my kind of sound so I can't really love this track but the guitar work is very good - well played and produced.
Hey Static, I figured you wouldn't be too enthusiastic about this track. I recall you aren't a fan of Meshuggah. I admit its a fairly brutal track sonically, as is most of their music. I guess I like the powerful nature of it. One thing about Djent, specifically with 8 string guitar is the inability of playing power chords. They sound terrible with the low tuning. Most of the melody here is basically a bass line. I had some difficulty with EQ and getting some things sounding right. Evan mentioned in my last track that the cymbals were washing out and again I'm noticing it. I used a couple tracks of heavy ride in here in places. For some strange reason it sounds ok on my computer but when I upload tracks the Looperman version has dramatically effected the dynamics. Not sure whats going on with that.
Anyhow, thanks for the listen and comments bro. Maybe my next track will be more to your liking.
Hey Metabolic, There's so much bottom on these guitars it does require a bit of trial and error to get a decent sound tonewise. I'm working with a Fractal Audio Axe FX II and Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier. Set relatively high on gain for drive and distortion levels, lots of midrange, a healthy amount of treble for clarity. This is more Progressive Metal Djent than Sludge though. Thanks for the comment bro.
this is the kind of music i loved to be stoned to and get lost in. what do you know, i am getting that escape with your work even without the weed. great work and look forward to more. Dan
Hi Dan, I guess it is a bit stoner-ish but I'm not so sure I would want to get lost in here. Kind of a dark and foreboding track that tends to suggest there is something scary in the far reaches of outer space or within the dark corners of our minds.
yeah...they played in Budapest at around 2007 and I was impressed about the drummer...CAN'T BELIEVE HOW HE WAS ABLE TO PLAY THOSE BROKEN RHYTHMS...
that band actually made revolution in prog metal...and your track is a true main drive in front of them...
Hey danke, yeah Tomas Haake is a phenominal drummer. His ability and contribution is so critical to the characteristics such as polymetered riff cycles, rhythmic syncopation, rapid key and tempo changes that define their sound. Haake is known for his cross-rhythm drumming. One particular example of his use of polymeter is 4/4 against 23/16 bimeter, in which he keeps the hi-hat and ride cymbal in 4/4 time but uses the snare and double bass drums in 23/16 time.
Thanks for the listen and comments bro.
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This. Is. Awesome.
I’ve liked Meshuggah since their beginning. Still do. In fact I dig the whole Djent genre. I love the broken rhythms and f’ked up time signatures. It’s not a real melodic genre, per se. but the percussive assault is one to really dig. Personally, I would go as far to say that Sepultura started that whole genre with “Roots, Bloody Roots”. They just weren’t using the 8string god sent from....wherever. But judging by the darkness of this tune, I’d say some suburb of hell.
Personally, I would love to get lost in the darkness of this tune. That shit is, for a lack of better terms when describing darkness, quite pleasant.
I’m not going to go into a Static sized breakdown on this one, I will say that the production is awesome. The tones you managed to achieve are true to the genre. Damn. I wish I could play live instruments, man. This makes my latest one sound like chicken scratch, dude. The layering is impeccable. The drone in the background is sitting perfect in the mix. It’s loud enough to hold everything together, and fill the blanks where it could become boring, (to the ears of those who don’t appreciate the genre), but it’s not so loud that it’s distracting. The sustained notes in the leads really work. I’ve always been a fan of that. Sustained, slow hand leads over choppy, chuggy rythyms.
Yep. You got yourself a winner, here, bud. I fav’d it so I can download it later. This one is going on the playlist.
Take care, mister. Hope to hear from you soon.
Aaron.
Take care my friend, thanks again.
Sorry on the late response, I'm busy on another track.
I plan to do some more of this progressive stuff soon. Stay tuned !
-WeinerBob
Oh no, don't get me wrong - I thought it was a really well made track, just not my preferred heavy style. I thought my detailed review demonstrated that I thought it was good. My musical tastes are somewhat separate from my evaluation of a track. And you don't make music to entertain me (and vice versa).
"the inability of playing power chords. They sound terrible with the low tuning."
That makes sense as I guess it's a bit like strumming mid to high chords on bass guitar (though that can also be effective). But you could play those same chords beyond the 12th fret. I know that's not the most comfortable sort of chord playing position but it could be done. And stop ot from sounding so low and messy. I'm sure you've given it a go.
" the cymbals were washing out and again I'm noticing it."
I didn't really notice but if it's bothering you, I guess you need to find a way to fix it. Or just get it closer to what you want.
"the Looperman version has dramatically effected the dynamics"
Not sure I've heard that before. I thought it was supposed to be exactly the same, no artifacts introduced.
"Maybe my next track will be more to your liking."
It might be but I really wouldn't worry if it's not.
My country track has been put on the back burner, partly because my latest one is going rather well. It's drum 'n' cell - d'n'b with loads of one particular instrument. It's fun and far out and you'll probably like it.
Merry mothafuckin' Xmas!
Static YuleMad
Sorry for the delayed response, I wasn't expecting a regreeting on this. The holidays has consumed a lot of my free time. Regarding the dynamics issue, I found that I had accidently added a limiter to the master track somehow (?) so the fault was entirely mine and sorry for even questioning Looperman. I removed it and re-uploaded like the next day so what you've heard is the fixed version. No man, no butt hurt on my part, I don't expect people to like all my tracks. I enjoy the constructive criticism as much as the praising which we all know is sometimes not as genuine. Hope you enjoy the holidays !
Not big on djent, but you got a good sound here. Doom filled chugs and clean dissonance. Sounds like a beast conveying it's displeasure with all around it. I can't fault anything here, just not my thing. Very evil, but I like aggression in my evilsoup. Production is awesome and sounds like there is a lot of money behind it in studio time. Rather well done!!!
Evan
I'm not a fan of Meshuggah (just too heavy and lacking in melody for me) but I think about them fairly often as I have Tomas Haake's Metalheads EZX and use it quite often, not only in heavy tracks. I used some of Haake's MIDI files for some of the "criminally insane" drumming that you liked in my Fist Bumps Of Fury track (especially early in the track).
I'm really, really bad with time signatures so I don't really know what 23/16 time is. But I do know I get something quite distinctive from his crazy MIDI files. Most of them are banging away on cymbals so not a lot of hat work.
Anyway:
0:10 that's quite a cool little industrial flourish and I like the slightly vocally drone synth underneath, changing note on 0:28.
0:15 and here's that heavy djent thud and overall fat sound. This already sounds well produced, as does all your stuff these days, I believe.
This does sound like there's some evil, clanging, octave-jumping bass guitar in it. I guess that's all just guitar. But it is a detuned 8 string so that makes sense.
1:19 and that lead guitar is a welcome addition as sitting on that thudding djent riff was getting a bit samey.
3:02 fuck that's dark and evil. Really wide guitars.
3:16 like an ogre groaning. Or metal vocalist grunting away.
The lead work on top here makes it more far out and psychedelic. In a dark, unsettling way.
This second half seems more powerful than the first.
As I said, Meshuggah isn't my kind of sound so I can't really love this track but the guitar work is very good - well played and produced.
4:48 reverse flourish at the end is a nice touch.
Static MeshuggMad
Anyhow, thanks for the listen and comments bro. Maybe my next track will be more to your liking.
I hope you can find a singer to complete this, I think it has huge potential.
I'm inspired to make some sludge now, keep it up brother.
Well a shot of strong ass coffee does a body good every once in a while bro. (haha)
Thanks for giving me a listen and commenting, much appreciated king.
that band actually made revolution in prog metal...and your track is a true main drive in front of them...
hats off, Danke
Thanks for the listen and comments bro.