Description : My grandmother was from Belarus. She was the lone survivor of her family after the Waffen SS massacred everyone in her village during a retreat from the Red Army. She escaped soviet occupied Belarus & through a series of wranglings by the international red cross, found a family to adopt her in New Jersey in 1947. She was 14 years old then. She was the strongest person I ever knew & I miss her terribly. This song is for her.
As I said, I am from the post-war generation. I have no personal guilt. But I'm also German. And as that I stand in the German continuity, which I accept, have always accepted, and therefore also in the responsibility that follows from it, which arises for me personally. Of course I have something to do with all of this.
I'm truly sorry that all this happened to your grandmother. No one can undo all of this unimaginable suffering that began with one child and continues throughout life. Nobody can do that. But I assure you that I am absolutely intensely aware of what we did to your grandmother back then, what we did to people back then, what we did to humanity.
I said that I would get in touch again about another track from you that I also have a connection to.
It's this song here. When I read your description of this song, it hit me suddenly and immediately, it hit me very emotionally, which is why I couldn't react immediately, but needed time. Even now, at this moment, it continues to move me extremely.
I am German, post-war generation, born in the early 1950s, grew up German, socialized German in every respect, positive, negative, the whole package, with all its highs, with all its lows, German is anchored in my genes down to the last bit. And not because I tried hard for it at all costs, but because it's just there, just like that. It is my absolute identity and I completely agree with it.
Son of a German who was in the war, in Russia, in Belarus, in your grandmother's country. My father died in 1992. We never talked about the war. The only statement ever made was that he could already see the towers of Moscow in the distance. I do not know more. Unfortunately! But I never asked any further questions myself. After the war, my father was consistently politically active, SPD, and within this classically left-wing party he was very much on the far left. Politically far left, warm-hearted, a thoroughly social person who has done an above-average effort for other people his whole life. The question of whether he was a Nazi or whether he was involved in war crimes never occurred to me in all my childhood, youth and adult years. It wasn't even remotely there, for me it was always so completely natural that such a question didn't even come even remotely close to becoming a thought or becoming an existence.
Why am I writing all this to you? Because changes gradually occurred to me in the years after my father's death. It bothers me immensely today that I don't know anything specifically, can't ask, can't ask anyone anymore. I think everyone who was a German soldier in Russia during World War II took part in a German national crime. But to what extent he was personally guilty beyond being a collective soldier, which was not his decision, of killing the human being within himself in order to be able to commit the most disgusting atrocities, to be able to exercise his most disgusting, base instincts on other people...
...as a human being you have to be able to get along with yourself, at least to the extent that you don't ban all mirrors from the house, from the world!
My father was in Israel in the early 1960s, and later also several times in Yugoslavia and Poland during the Iron Curtain. That calms me down just a little bit. He certainly would not have traveled there if he had to expect to be recognized as a war criminal and executed there.
Fitting Tribute to your grandmother. My wife's Grandfather from Poland survived in a ditch for a year hiding from the Nazis, eventually fighting for the allies in North Africa, came to Canada and started his life over.
My grandmother escaped hungary when they were invaded. Luckily they didn't find out she was jewish since her mother re-married a non-jewish man when she was young. She still practiced her religion at a young age, but was unable to do so for many years approaching her countries invasion.
She rarely spoke of it but my grandmother's stories of those times were unbelievable. What they had to go through just to get something as simple as a potato was insane. She said everyone knew about the existence of the camps & there was a constant fear of being sent to one. Even though she wasn't Jewish, she was a Slav & the Reich didn't think much of them either. Thank you for stopping by & listening to my track. I appreciate it.
i'm not surprised to read on the comment of TheNyctopianthe reference to Front242 and others bands from the nineties which made during this years the "war beat" genre (an extansion of the new beat).
this kind of sound deliver strong message with a lot of sensibility and i'm just a musician so i won't talk about anything else than musical creativity here :)
i like the dark approach, each sound until the drums create this atmosphere, the render is perfect and the purpose is nicely targeting!
It's been many years since I have listened to industrial (probably the 90's when I was heavily into Skinny Puppy, Front 242, Frontline Assembly, etc) and I must say this is a really nice throwback for me. Great job!
Amazing track. It really creates the dark atmosphere of what things were at that time. Your grandmother must have been a very courageous and amazing lady.
I like when it hits 2:05 and by "like" I mean it's pretty damn terrifying which I assume is what you're going for. If the subject matter wasn't so dark I would maybe say it sounds cool in a "Quake theme music" kind of way.
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I'm truly sorry that all this happened to your grandmother. No one can undo all of this unimaginable suffering that began with one child and continues throughout life. Nobody can do that. But I assure you that I am absolutely intensely aware of what we did to your grandmother back then, what we did to people back then, what we did to humanity.
Thank you for your patience.
Seelengold
I said that I would get in touch again about another track from you that I also have a connection to.
It's this song here. When I read your description of this song, it hit me suddenly and immediately, it hit me very emotionally, which is why I couldn't react immediately, but needed time. Even now, at this moment, it continues to move me extremely.
I am German, post-war generation, born in the early 1950s, grew up German, socialized German in every respect, positive, negative, the whole package, with all its highs, with all its lows, German is anchored in my genes down to the last bit. And not because I tried hard for it at all costs, but because it's just there, just like that. It is my absolute identity and I completely agree with it.
Son of a German who was in the war, in Russia, in Belarus, in your grandmother's country. My father died in 1992. We never talked about the war. The only statement ever made was that he could already see the towers of Moscow in the distance. I do not know more. Unfortunately! But I never asked any further questions myself. After the war, my father was consistently politically active, SPD, and within this classically left-wing party he was very much on the far left. Politically far left, warm-hearted, a thoroughly social person who has done an above-average effort for other people his whole life. The question of whether he was a Nazi or whether he was involved in war crimes never occurred to me in all my childhood, youth and adult years. It wasn't even remotely there, for me it was always so completely natural that such a question didn't even come even remotely close to becoming a thought or becoming an existence.
Why am I writing all this to you? Because changes gradually occurred to me in the years after my father's death. It bothers me immensely today that I don't know anything specifically, can't ask, can't ask anyone anymore. I think everyone who was a German soldier in Russia during World War II took part in a German national crime. But to what extent he was personally guilty beyond being a collective soldier, which was not his decision, of killing the human being within himself in order to be able to commit the most disgusting atrocities, to be able to exercise his most disgusting, base instincts on other people...
...as a human being you have to be able to get along with yourself, at least to the extent that you don't ban all mirrors from the house, from the world!
My father was in Israel in the early 1960s, and later also several times in Yugoslavia and Poland during the Iron Curtain. That calms me down just a little bit. He certainly would not have traveled there if he had to expect to be recognized as a war criminal and executed there.
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i'm not surprised to read on the comment of TheNyctopianthe reference to Front242 and others bands from the nineties which made during this years the "war beat" genre (an extansion of the new beat).
this kind of sound deliver strong message with a lot of sensibility and i'm just a musician so i won't talk about anything else than musical creativity here :)
i like the dark approach, each sound until the drums create this atmosphere, the render is perfect and the purpose is nicely targeting!
congratulations for the performance
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This has a really cool, metallic, industrial sound. Nice thud from those lower drums too. Good synth lead. Warm but also cold, legato notes.
2:06 good breakdown and break from the main beat.
This is kind of eerie and unsettling and could be very useful soundtrack music.
Congratulations.