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12th Mar 2013 03:09 - 12 years ago
Description : Steamy tune I wrote in 1999, No loops involved, just me & my Synths. I broke a cardinal rule of recording bass by not keeping the bass in the centre of the mix, but by recording 2 separate bass lines in counterpoint with one as the melody.

Comments (35)

If you have time take a listen and give crucethus some feedback.

martindebourge
martindebourge 1st Jul 2016 18:52 - 8 years ago
Crucethus.. I've sent a couple messages, but Looperman system for communicating is a bit odd. Would you PLEASE contact me regarding this track? I appreciate your time

my email is my name at gmail
Cheers
MartinDeBourge
crucethus
crucethus replied 2nd Jul 2016 - 8 years ago
thank you for your interest in this song and my music. I have sent an email to you.
Cru:
Steve
promenade2239
promenade2239 28th Feb 2015 21:26 - 10 years ago
Hi Steve, just to let you know I had a chance to enjoy this tune again. That would be probably one of my favourite from you ever. Ahh.. 'Bedroom Games' were very nice too!
I was thinking a lot of making a cover of one of them these last few days. They are simply great songs. I will let you know.
best to you, Alex
crucethus
crucethus replied 2nd Mar 2015 - 10 years ago
Thanks Alex.
these are the two songs that influenced this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib4-Lyxxyw0&html5=1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0C3DHp36zc&html5=1
I might make a third tune that follows this sound. we will see.
Steve
Apieceoftofu
Apieceoftofu 27th Feb 2015 21:04 - 10 years ago
Wow cool vibe here. Funky and oldschool but not overly minimal or cheesy.
crucethus
crucethus replied 2nd Mar 2015 - 10 years ago
Thanks for that. it's sort of a leftfield school that was made popular by Roxy Music in the very early eighties.
Cru
BradoSanz
BradoSanz 27th Feb 2015 09:46 - 10 years ago
I absolutely LOVE that juicy bass drum at the beginning. Slightly too juicy at certain spots, but does the job well. Beautiful synth work (it's so silky smooth to my ears!) and I enjoy the bassline, even if it "breaks" the rules. Truly, it sounds really pleasing to the ear. Good stuff cru. Sounds nice and airy, just like I like my music to sound :) Good stuff. Seriously.
crucethus
crucethus replied 2nd Mar 2015 - 10 years ago
juicy ehh? I'm glad u liked it. Originally the opening drums were very low in the mixbut I found that when I stabilized it to the rest of the song it worked better.
Cru
AneemA
AneemA 27th Feb 2015 06:18 - 10 years ago
This sounds really great. Great taste you've got there and truly artistic.
crucethus
crucethus replied 2nd Mar 2015 - 10 years ago
Thank you for that. Very nice of you to say.
Cru
Orlando51
Orlando51 18th Oct 2014 15:00 - 10 years ago
Absolutely great! This is pure performance of good taste...
Well thought out composition with dark and tense feel, instant
favourite!:)

Hat's off_____Orlando
crucethus
crucethus replied 19th Oct 2014 - 10 years ago
Thank You Orlando. It's my fav as well
Steve
promenade2239
promenade2239 17th Oct 2014 05:49 - 10 years ago
hi again, very nice one -I am liking the percussions in the intro and all very gentle drums throughout. The 'frog-like' kind of synth bassline definitely reminds me of your 'Bedroom Games'. I like the placement of instruments in the recording spectrum too. Very fine synth lead from 2:37 - nice played, something like Tangerine Dream - a kind of a guitar almost!
Very soft and calming sounds! Alex
crucethus
crucethus replied 19th Oct 2014 - 10 years ago
Thanks for listening Alex.
You are correct about Bedroom games. Sensuality pre-dates bedroom games by a bit, but was my attempt at capturing the glory sound of sensuality. I have a radio review where the announcers critique the song and say that I play my synths like a guitarist and can evoke emotion through the usage of my synths.
glad U liked!
Steve
Pricelessboi
Pricelessboi 17th Oct 2014 04:47 - 10 years ago
im naturally a bass line fan and i like the way yours carried the mellodie. its the life of the track. Groovey to me.

PricelessBeatz
crucethus
crucethus replied 17th Oct 2014 - 10 years ago
Thank you!
Pricelessboi
Pricelessboi 17th Oct 2014 04:43 - 10 years ago
I dont know man, sounds good to me.

Priceless Beatz
Pricelessboi
Pricelessboi 17th Oct 2014 04:21 - 10 years ago
I dont know man, sounds good to me.

Priceless Beatz
crucethus
crucethus replied 17th Oct 2014 - 10 years ago
So What don't you Know, What Sounds good to your musical ears?
Cru
FreeRadical
FreeRadical 9th Aug 2014 18:17 - 10 years ago
Well i'm no expert on chill out but i like the atmosphere's that i'm hearing here. It's very funky and sort of leftfield sounding. You do a lot of different genres well so it's no suprize that this is nothing short of brilliant. Love the pad work, it's really dreamy and flows with the funky bassline perfectly. Dig the guitarish synths in the breakdown and i'm a little jealous of your soloing skills.
An epic piece of chill out that hits all the right buttons.
Niiice!!!
FR
crucethus
crucethus replied 27th Sep 2014 - 10 years ago
Veryy nice words my friend, sorry for the late reply I missed this. This is my fav tune I have ever made and I am glad U N-Joi'ed
Steve
GramoChopin
GramoChopin 18th Jul 2014 15:37 - 10 years ago
Really chilled out production. Has a lurking in the jungle vibe to it at some parts. Really digging the pads and sound choice. Has a cinematic flare as well, great work. Mixed real well too, peace

Gramo/Neo
crucethus
crucethus replied 27th Sep 2014 - 10 years ago
Thanks Gramo
DanGoldstein
DanGoldstein 8th Mar 2014 10:57 - 11 years ago
unrelated to track. how do you manage to get your tracks in perfect chronological order. the option never seems to work for me.

what a cool dark sound you are getting hear. subtle string sounds. i like that hot electronic snare sound in groove? again - when that warm synth comes in it is like a ray of sunlight (or moonlight) and chordal progression resolving to major creates an interesting mood contrast to the dark groove. major chords are underused! now the guitar solo - back to something more consonant with the groove mood. interesting concept. thoroughly enjoying. wonderful work. peace.
crucethus
crucethus replied 10th Mar 2014 - 11 years ago
Thank you for those nice words, the order of songs is as much of a mystery to me as it is to you.. dumb luck I guess!
FaridHumanoid
FaridHumanoid 22nd Jan 2014 08:51 - 11 years ago
Great Intro.
I like all but the intro is my favourite part here.

TanX
Farid
crucethus
crucethus replied 8th Mar 2014 - 11 years ago
thanks for that, the intro...hmmnn that’s fascinating as it's so minimal but I’m glad u liked it!
GalanticMusic
GalanticMusic 30th Sep 2013 02:22 - 11 years ago
those synths! its like im living life with no worries! such a relaxing track! U did Great!
crucethus
crucethus replied 8th Mar 2014 - 11 years ago
Thanks for that, sorry for the late reply.
Darkreine
Darkreine 18th Aug 2013 14:57 - 11 years ago
Hey Steve, this is awesome man. Love the harmonies and I think this works so well because everything is not centered on the bass. Fav from me bro.
crucethus
crucethus replied 18th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thank you Kenny!
johnnyproducing
johnnyproducing 17th Aug 2013 10:25 - 11 years ago
Well done crucethus, I think you worked the panning out great with the bass and further nice pads, sounding all together sorta dark. Also nice work on the guitar you fitted in there
crucethus
crucethus replied 18th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thanks for the nice comments, no guitars were harmed or used in the making of this song!
KronieDubstep
KronieDubstep 15th Aug 2013 16:42 - 11 years ago
Really urban and dark, I love it!
crucethus
crucethus replied 15th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thank You!
deciBel
deciBel 15th Aug 2013 05:36 - 11 years ago
a differenT track of yours Steve ,I like your designation abouT synchronizism of the up beaT of percussive line with a considered note of the synth & also the waY in which U plaY your eleganT solo by synth . welldone & remarkable.best wishes.___B
crucethus
crucethus replied 15th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thanks ___B
It's weird but my loop based songs are really upbeat
and my from scratch tunes are dark and mysterious in minor keys.
I love to solo with the synth, it's my prideful downfall..;-)
Steve
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 15th Aug 2013 02:11 - 11 years ago
"If you can find it, there is an instrumental version of Digging in the dirt (somewhere I have a CD5 single of it) that is awesome as it just builds up the verse and then only at the end do you get the chorus, the anticipation of that is mind bogglingly good."

Thanks for telling me about that version. I searched and found an instrumental version on Youtube, which is great. It's one of those amazing tracks where the vocal is so good but kind of overshadows the brilliant music underneath it so it's great to bring the playing out more. The bass is so simple and powerful and I love the guitar - tone, fluidity of the playing, everything really.

Maybe it's not the same instrumental you've heard as I didn't hear a chorus "at the end". There were just small portions of the vocal, no proper verses or choruses.
crucethus
crucethus replied 15th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M3WjiYws1k&html5=1
is definitely the version I dug up today and was playing in the car on that old CD. it builds to the chorus with the awesome jangly guitars and then ends out with the funky bass-line.
CognacXE
CognacXE 14th Aug 2013 10:00 - 11 years ago
Simply Smooth. I love the synth work!!
crucethus
crucethus replied 15th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thank you so much
PortraitOfABlackHole
PortraitOfABlackHole 13th Aug 2013 20:27 - 11 years ago
Can definetly hear that 90s sound, very well done. I too like what you did with the bass, and the mastering on this is phenomenal.
crucethus
crucethus replied 14th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
much appreciation for the kind words!
VickyDan
VickyDan 13th Aug 2013 15:06 - 11 years ago
Bonjour mon Ami ....

I remain pleasantly surprised, listening to this very nice track.
Aside from the usual small plaisenteries in our mutual comments .... I confess that I have great interest in what you are doing .... Because there are a lot of personality, ingenuity, and also the talent to realize your concepts, your themes ....
In short .... It's great your piece here .... and sorry for the delay to listen.

Dan
crucethus
crucethus replied 14th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thank you Dan, that means a lot to me.
ronabo
ronabo 13th Aug 2013 05:13 - 11 years ago
I am feeling this chill out track. nice
crucethus
crucethus replied 14th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thank you.
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 13th Aug 2013 04:36 - 11 years ago
This is not a comment on your track but a reply to this: "What I love about this site besides the critical comments which believe me help my overall production values, is the influences that drive each musician. Ozric Tentacles, Mon Dieu! Brilliant sounds I have never heard before. So the sharing of ideas and influences help musicians like us evolve into something better, and for that I am truly grateful. Thanks for the comments".

I guess you must have checked out my track Circular Motion and seen that I mentioned the Ozric Tentacles. And then you went and checked them out and loved them. Well done - they are an incredible band and I'd say the greatest space rock band ever. But they've been around for 30 years and have a lot of material. Unfortunately, in the last 15 or so years they have just been retreading their old stuff and not progressing at all and are now a bit boring. It's sad that I have to say that about one of my favourite bands ever but it's really what I think.

Please check out their stuff from the late 80s to late 90s as it's absolutely incredible. They do 'trance' in a much more musical way than almost all trance producers I've ever heard. Here are some albums you should definitely get: Pungent Effulgent, Erpland (those two are probably the best), Strangeitude, Jurassic Shift, Arborescence and Become The Other. But there's also great stuff from the 80s that were cassette-only at the time but can now be got as collections. Happy listening as it will be a hell of a deep trip!
crucethus
crucethus replied 14th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
I will definitely check out there catalogue. If you can find it, there is an instrumental version of Digging in the dirt (somewhere I have a CD5 single of it) that is awesome as it just builds up the verse and then only at the end do you get the chorus, the anticipation of that is mind bogglingly good.
StaticNomad
StaticNomad 12th Aug 2013 23:45 - 11 years ago
Yes, I know what you mean about not panning your basses. I try to do it but then things just seem unbalanced so I tend to do it just for a effect for a short period in the song.

If you go to about 1:16 of my track on this site called Circular Motion, you'll hear a pair of synth basses playing the same thing with each panned about halfway to each side.

I find that balances things out though just one bass on one side tends to be a bit odd.

Anyway, back to your track, which has a cool vibe to it (and the panned bass seems to be fine). I love the filtered, twinkling percussive stuff starting on about 2:35.

This sounds like it should probably be a vocal song. I mean that it sounds as though it could just have a vocal stuck on top and you wouldn't have to remove much that's going on.

I'm not surprised to hear you refer to Digging In The Dirt. That is a spectacularly amazing piece of msuic. Brilliant vocals but it would be so cool just as an instrumental. And I also know the Avalon album and can see why you mention it. Good work.
crucethus
crucethus replied 13th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
What I love about this site besides the critical comments which believe me help my overall production values, is the influences that drive each musician. Ozric Tentacles, Mon Dieu! Brilliant sounds I have never heard before. So the sharing of ideas and influences help musicians like us evolve into something better, and for that I am truly grateful. Thanks for the comments
Spivkurl
Spivkurl 12th Aug 2013 22:51 - 11 years ago
This is so groovy! The sounds you used really take me back to a different time! I'm not one to pan my basses, but with the complimentary lines going on the balance is almost centered anyway, so that's very cool and creative! Definitely my kind of chill out! Great work! Faved for sure!
crucethus
crucethus replied 12th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thank you for that. Yeah I was definitely being a rebel doing counterpoint with bass-lines. But since the bass really drives the melody I thought it would work. Thanks for the listen, fav and comment, you are one of the musicians On this site I truly respect for your talent and creativity!
Steve
FastFunghi
FastFunghi 12th Aug 2013 15:21 - 11 years ago
Hey Cruc, this seems the in the direction I'm looking at too. I like to compose some songs with a deep though funky electric sound. This works as an inspiration to me. I really like the 'chorus', it has great progression in it. And the communicating basslines at the 'sides' is a nice find actually. It grabs ur attention more. And there's no other way to have two baselines talk to each other. ;)
In between at 2:30 the rythm gets to loose and crowded in my humble opinion, but I really like the feel of the track. Great job mate. Chrs FF
crucethus
crucethus replied 12th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thanks, I'm glad you like the track. I was very influenced by two songs Roxy Music "The Main Thing" and Peter Gabriel's "Digging in the dirt" in the making of this song.
topvega
topvega 11th Aug 2013 23:26 - 11 years ago
Awesome stuff...really lives up to the chill out genre. This just washed all over me as it came out the speakers. Felt like an Audio Loofah, loosening up all the tension and making me feel " clean " again. :) Thanks for sharing it.

tv
crucethus
crucethus replied 12th Aug 2013 - 11 years ago
Thank you, the song has done it's work then!
mikekeyz
mikekeyz 20th Mar 2013 17:44 - 11 years ago
I dig it awesome song!!!!!!!!!!
crucethus
crucethus replied 21st Mar 2013 - 11 years ago
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for commenting.
ShortBusMusic
ShortBusMusic 20th Mar 2013 17:30 - 11 years ago
Crucethus, this is so good on so many different levels. My theory professor actually told me I should quit music and take up another hobby, hahaha. God I hated that SOB....

Back to this track, this is outstanding work. The composition is outstanding, well thought out, and well delivered. You have mad skills as a musician as well.

This one is definitely one for my favorites list. I had to grab a download (thanks for that).

A beautiful listen and a great way to start out my Wednesday. I hope all is well.

Bear
crucethus
crucethus replied 21st Mar 2013 - 11 years ago
Coming from a talented musician like yourself Bear, that is a big compliment and much appreciation and thanks for listening and commenting. I had a Music teacher in 9th grade asked me to do a scale on the clarinet and I made an error. He told me in front of the band That I would never be as good as my sister (older). I got up and walked out and never went back. Taught myself keyboards and took theory in college. Never Listen to negative comments, Only positive corrective comments. You never know what might happen.
you may enjoy this one http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/140667
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 19th Mar 2013 02:23 - 11 years ago
This one is a tonic for the ears crucethus...beautiful big fat pad sounds, thoutghtful composing and some tasty chord progs...I like the bass sounds...a little like a fretless, with lots of harmonics..the melody is almost implied rather than in your face kind of stuff..and my ears & speakers both really like the mix....Superb bit of musical art my friend...and very much enjoyed over my way tonight....Ed
crucethus
crucethus replied 21st Mar 2013 - 11 years ago
Thank you for those accolades. I have no formal training playing piano or keyboards. I was just an obsessed teen with synths and keyboards that I am completely self taught. So my style of playing is more in line with how a guitarist thinks in terms of riffs. I also wanted to play like a metal guitarist so I have some older tunes where I distort my keys and try to play wicked solos with a wah wah pedal. With songs like this I tried to bring emotion in an almost restrained method. I like your notes on the melody being implied, I think that describes it in a way for years I couldn't say. I have another example of this style but a more Jazz chord structured song.
http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/140667
Much thanks Ed
Steve
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking 13th Mar 2013 11:40 - 12 years ago
Lacking words to describe, my english isn´t that good but I really liked this one. Mellow and...you sort of used the sound palette so eloquently and not in an intruding way. Very soft, light and enjoyable.
crucethus
crucethus replied 13th Mar 2013 - 12 years ago
Thank you for that lovely synopsis.
This song was influenced by Roxy Music's Avalon album and the baseline from Peter Gabriel's song "digging in the dirt". It took a Month to record and finish and is my most successful song in my repertoire.
brillbilly
brillbilly 12th Mar 2013 15:57 - 12 years ago
lol ....cardinal rules?......you should do what i do and just go with what feels good...sod rules!

Music is always more than just sounds.....its feelings,idea's and ways to experiment,but most of all ,it must come from emotion in all its forms....happy,sad,love,lost,passion,euphoria etc.!

The main thing is it has to take me somewhere!

Loving this,very chilled and a lovely trip!

Nice work!.......forget about cardinal rules.....use your feeling as music talks!

Peace all the way man!
crucethus
crucethus replied 13th Mar 2013 - 12 years ago
Thanks brillbilly, I had a brilliant Music theory professor in college who made us learn all the rules. Then she said you can break them all you want, just as long as you know why your breaking them. I knew that I was breaking them then, but I loved the result of it so yes I completely agree with you it does come from emotion as well.
mrwolf14
mrwolf14 12th Mar 2013 14:13 - 12 years ago
Good Song! I really enjoyed it... chill and cool.
And I really like the work on the bass.
Thanks for sharing.
Ciao, Domenico
crucethus
crucethus replied 13th Mar 2013 - 12 years ago
Thank you for listening!
I call it a frog bass, Korg MS2000 with a liberal use of the pitch bend.

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