Cool. I know a fair bit of Latin, having studied it at school, but don't remember that phrase.

I hope my music crosses over some boundaries. That's the idea. If it doesn't it's pretty average and/or unimaginative.

Thanks for the clarification.

My music is "a 1929 French silent drama film written and directed by Jean Epstein."?

That's what Wikipedia says Finis Terrae is.

Anyway, yes, I do like this track and delta blues works nicely with the oriental/Eastern stuff. I add a fair bit of the latter to my music, through choice of instruments (eg sitar) and playing style (scales, I guess).

I wish I could make another track like this. It's one of those rare, unique triumphs of mine.

Thanks for following my link and checking this one out. It's right up there with my best ever tracks. I'm not sure which other piece of music it sounds like. An unusual merger of various elements.

"innovative in its own right"

That's my aim with every track but I don't always manage it.

"I will now dig out my slide guitar and possibly banjo"

I can't tell if you're joking. If not, yes, why not dig them out?

Thanks again.

Sorry, I can't remember which are the three you loved.

Here are the tracks for the first album:

Circular Motion
28 Levels Above Top Secret
Right Place Wrong Century
Three Miles Late
Reckful

That's a full length album as two of the tracks (2 and 4) are 14 mins long.

All of those tracks are currently on Looperman though I have since remixed and remastered them so they will sound better when released.

Thanks again for the interest.

Sorry you can't download this but it will feature on my first released album, whose artwork is very nearly done. Should be available for free on Bandcamp soon.

I've got about 15 albums of material made over the years, which I'm working on compiling into different types of albums. Some chilled, some heavy, some funky etc.

Yo, Mr Knives.

Thanks for coming and checking out this track, which is quite a special one of mine.

Even so, there are still some things about it that annoy me. I may need to turn the bass down a bit at times, or perhaps EQ to make it less muddy as it is a mixture of different takes and playing techniques (bass guitar, synth bass etc).

" I've always loved mixing this kind of instruments that wouldn't normally go together"

That's the sort of thing I also love doing. I'm always trying to show people that any sound can go well with others. That is true but you have to actually do it and really make it work.

"Makes me feel like I'm in the desert watching some weird slow mo dance ritual with fire."

That seems quite accurate and it does somehow conjure up a desert feel. Probably because of that resonator guitar sound plus the Eastern melodies. And then you have the dark, psychedelic strings that add some sort of supernatural mood.

"the melody goes changing with some new instruments every so and then without every truly committing to it"

Yes, I keep changing stuff throughout my tracks. I try to keep things interesting and a little bit unpredictable all the time.

"hope you explore this vibe again"

I'd really like to. I guess I'll just have to try starting some slow or mid tempo far out hip hop vibe and try making it all dark and psychedelic.

Thanks again.

Thanks for once again checking out a suggested track.

Very few people do that.

When we were discussing blues and hip hop, I was sure I had some more obvious mergers of the two genres but I'm disappointed to say that I don't and that this is the most obvious one.

I mix blues into all sorts of other genres and elements of hip hop as well but I clearly need to do more of two together.

This track is rather a special one for me though it does have lots of faults but I don't think I can really improve them much more. It'll just have to stay as it is, with its faults perhaps adding some extra character.

Thanks again.

21st century greetings.

This really is one of the most special pieces I've ever made. It has a vibe and attitude and level of proficiency I wish I could come up with all the time.

Sadly, that just isn't the case. So I guess I have to celebrate real achievements like this.

I think the Eastern vibe is giving this a badass sort of edge, even though it's not a heavy track.

The two other tracks from the same project as this are just as good, if not better. Check them here:

http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/151799

http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/150919

Thanks for stopping by.

Thanks.

Yes, would be good as a modern sort of delta soundtrack in some film or other.

One of the best tracks I've ever done, with some serious vibe and atmosphere.

Thanks for listening.

Hello. Yes, this does have some serious vibe.

Dark, brooding and psychedelic but with hip hop, eastern elements and slide country blues and banjo and strings and stuff. Sounds like an unlikely mix so I suspect there may be no other piece of music quite like it.

I sort of hope there isn’t (to make mine stand out as unique). However, I also hope there is as I’d like to listen to it.

I particularly like the title. It’s really a comment on the mix of instruments, with the idea of having instruments that sound from a different time (so, a lot older) mixed with much more modern, even futuristic, instruments.

So, I guess the older instruments are the banjo and resonator guitar and the newer ones are the filtered, psychedelic strings, beats and generally slightly futuristic vibe. I guess it’s also an unintentional reference to time travel, where you’re in the right place but you’ve moved through the centuries – a bit like what happens quite a few times in the excellent Back To The Future trilogy of films.

Thanks for checking it out and leaving some thoughts.

Yo. Guess you must have come here via the Unique Song thread.

I do like this one and feels it's pretty unusual though I still have some problems with some aspects of the sound though I don't think I can make it any better.

But there's still some movement that just really gets me every time, such as the main bassline starting a 1:42 (which was constructed from different bits of processed guitar and bass guitar playing), the strings, guitar and so on.

Thanks for the interest.

Yo, dude. This does have some serious vibe. It's that simple, sparse, essential groove right at the start that was so inspiring and made the banjo notes flow out so easily.

Kind of simple banjo playing but then gets more complicated and fiddly as I rise up for the fills at the end of the bar. Then there's some cool string stuff going on behind the banj.

"mysterious yet captivating"

I agree with that. Maybe it's more mysterious than dark, as I've previously been describing it.

Good call regarding Breaking Bad. There is some slide guitar in that show. This might be the soundtrack to some gangsta shit in it. With the slide playing I guess it's got a southern, delta/country feel that might go well with the desert (Albuquerque) setting of the show.

I have a hell of a lot of tracks on here, mostly heavily groove-based. For a hip hop guy like you, I'd recommend a fat very alternative hip hop-related epic in a genre I've named psychedelic blue grungehop. Check the link to see if I really do manage to fuse blues, hip hop, grunge and psychedelia. Oh, and also with some big eastern vibes at times.

Zero Per Cent Proof

http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/149490

Thanks for checking in and I still love your Love Alchemist track and have downloaded it.

Thanks. I also like the darkness in this one. I do like dark things but not too dark - it still has to have melody and feel and emotion for me - not just weird or spooky or aggressive.

I think you've listened to two tracks by me now (also Three Miles Late) and they're both from the same project. So, they're at the same tempo, share some of the same instruments and sounds. One is a 'sister' track to the other. I do this a lot when I compose very long stuff and then decide I should split it into two (or more) separate tracks. But I still have some extremely long tracks, even up to 18 minutes long (Things That Have Never Been). Also, check my track on here called NightTime Thrones, which is 17 mins. I'm trying to do shorter stuff but sometimes find it hard!

One of my favourite pieces on here didn't really attract much attention. It's called Into The Out There. It's sort of an acoustic drum dance track with banjo and birsong and and a few other interesting sounds. It's only 9 minutes but some people think it feels shorter.

I'm sure I have lots of other tracks on here you might like. Debt Black Hole and Trial By Ordeal used to be one track but definitely now sound better as two separate tracks.

Happy listening and thanks for the interest.

Thanks. Yeah, I guess my stuff is worth money but I haven't tried selling anything yet. I'll probably just end up allowing free downloads of the proper albums I'm in the process of compiling (about 7 right now, many more to follow of older stuff after that).

Hadn't hear faded before for 'stoned' but am sure there are loads and loads of words for it in almost every language on earth.

Wasted, monged, mashed more common here in England but you can kind of come up with anything, can't you?

If you check more of my stuff, you'll probably agree it's all serious smoking music. I love far out sounds!

Thanks again for listening.

Thanks. I am a groove obsessive. Good ones and psychedelic far out sounds inspire me more than anything else. This track has both, as do most of my tracks.

Sorry but I didn't quite understand what you mean by 'faded'. And why would you be offering me some money? There's some reference there I really don't get.

Thanks for taking me up on my suggestion and checking this out.

Thanks. It's a pretty emotive piece. I know what you mean about country and urban but I hadn't really thought about it in those terms. The urban is from the bass and drums (there's a simple hip hop kit in there plus other acoustic drums) and the country from the guitar though I think of it as more Eastern blues though the slide playing is reminiscent of country too.

You'd think there would be more of this sort of thing (eg in the US) but I've never heard anything quite like it. You just need a decent slide guitarist to get together with some creative hip hop guys.

I do have country guitar in another very psychedelic, heavily layered and almost indefinable track on here called NightTime Thrones. The full version is 17 mins and you can find the link if you go to the 10-min Looperman version. Thanks agan for listening and offering your impressions of the music I enjoy making.

Thanks. I try to not have too much repetition and not have too many changes as I tend to have a hell of a lot of the latter, which can be a little discombobulating for the listener.

Maybe I got it slightly wrong here with siting on parts (ie repetition) but maybe you'll get used to it if you listen again.

My banjo is pretty cheap (and 6 string so like a guitar, just with strings closer together so more difficult to play) and I even do a bit of slide on it as I raised the action. I'd like a more expensive one and would love one with a pickup so I don't have to mic it up.

Lovely with some delay added afterwards! There's also a glitch retrigger effect I sometimes use on it at precise points to make it sound as though I've played the notes much faster and closer together. Very useful and you might not know it's an effect.

Thanks for coming back to comment...

"you make very diverse genres play together nicely"

That's a really nice way of putting it.

Yes, people fear the banjo! But I don't play it in a regular way and there's hardly anyone using it in electronic music - it's all predictable country and bluegrass, some jazz etc.

I've found one guy using it in electronic music and he's very good. But I've forgotten his artist name!

I like playing it with lots of delay and in a an Eastern style. Have recorded loads with it in past 18 months.

Go to 5:20 in this track for some crazy cool banjo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxNcxo-sPwE

Maybe the sensual thing come from the groove, the bass and the overall sort of edgy, slightly aggressive nature of the track, combined with the psychedelic elements and Eastern sounds. I'm not sure, really. The simplest way of putting is probably just to say "it's got some vibe".

The time I take over stuff really comes from the way I compose. I don't write these pieces of music in any sort of planned out way. As I said before, they mostly come from recycling leftover sections from previous tracks. If you want to hear the two sister tracks to this one (same tempo, same key, some of the same sounds plus many new ones), go to my Sound of An Unsound Mind page on Mixposure and listen to Three Miles Late and 28 Levels Above Top Secret.

I just keep jamming over loops I love and slowly adding new bits of playing, with a focus on using the more interesting incidental bits of playing that I didn't plan on doing. Because I cycle record over a loop, I have loads of versions of the main sort of riff I planned on playing, plus loads and loads of different fills and stuff. Then I take these and layer them up and start new sections with loops of some of the more interesting parts.

I just find it so easy with modern DAWs to add all manner of complexity and effects and carefully automate it all. When making a track, I have find trying out loads of different effects and synth parts and drum grooves. And then I spend ages thinking "Well, how can I fit all this in?".

I just keep adding things bit by bit and then use different effects and fills to get the transitions from section to section as natural-sounding as possible. So much detail makes for a complex mix but my aim is to make unique music that never fails to be interesting so I don't mind having to deal with so much information and elements competing to be heard.

Thanks again for taking an interest. I shall do more with your tracks though I currently have very limited internet access.

I shall check The Fragile out and see if I can find anything that reminds me of this track as I guess I'd like it.

Will be a shame if I can't find it but, then again, we all hear things differently. So, if this reminds you of it then you're not wrong.

"Ask Trent Reznor for vocals maybe"

Well that is an interesting idea and certainly not one I would have thought of. I don't see this track as being that dark.

I do like some NIN, especially Pretty Hate Machine though I haven't really listened to anything of his/theirs in years. Maybe I should.

I can't really see his style fitting in to this track. I'm sure he'd want more distortion (there's harly any on this) but maybe it would work.

If you can get him to listen to it, maybe we can get an answer to two things: does he like it and does he want to try out some vocals on it. So please email him or whatever and see if he'll reply.

Thanks for stopping by, listening and sharing your interesting idea.

Yes, it doesn't belong in hip hop but as it's got hip hop in it I thought I'd give people a little surprise and post something in hip hop that they're probably only likely to hear once in the hip hop section. I've never before heard banjo in hip hop, though I guess there must be some somewhere.

Yes, I really like some of the guitar playing on this, particularly the finger brushed chords in the last guitar section in the last minute or so. I can't remember very well but I think they're chords played with the glass slide (but without any actual sliding around).

As regards performance, I always do multiple varied takes of actual playing and then spend ages and ages piecing together the best bits and moving things around and so on. So there are some guitar parts that are full, unedited performances but they are often just 20 seconds or so, often much less, before I do an edit or layer something else on top(I don't care where I do it, I just do what I think works for the track).

I always record on a loop (8 bar, 16 bar, whatever) so never worry about getting things "wrong" and that allows me to really relax and let go and do whatever comes into my head or through my fingers.

Thanks for listening and I'll be posting another track very soon, probably today.

Cool. I guess that's sick as in good rather than sick as in in the head.

Thanks. I've got a slightly improved version as I wasn't happy with all the drums on this but otherwise I also like all of it. No, I'm not really looking for anyone to sing on this one. I'd have to remove lots of lead playing (such as the guitar) so would have to pretty much do a whole new composition/remix. But I'd need to work with the singer so would really need to be in the same room as them so would have to know them.

I am always looking for singers to work with me but I need to know them and can't just do it online with people I don't know. It might work out doing it online but there's so much that can go wrong!

Sorry it's taken me 3 years to reply to this comment. I don't know why I didn't bother before. Thanks so much for the appreciation.

Yes,it takes a couple of minutes to get going and really kick in to that main, compelling bassline and sort of Middle Eastern guitar.

I hope those couple of minutes are interesting enough as it took me a while to work out how to transition in to the main section beginning around 1:45.

I have other tracks related to this one so have a look round my page if you feel like it. The track called Circular Motion might be a good place to start.

Thanks. It is pretty interesting and unusual and was fun to play and put together (though it took a hell of a long time). However, I've made some improvements since uploading this as there are a few bits that aren't quite powerful enough. I might upload an improved version to Looperman though I'll definitely soon upload it to one of the other sites that hosts my music. The track also has two sister tracks at the same tempo and featuring some of the same sounds. Both are perhaps even better, though that might be because they're each about twice as long so there's (obviously) more in them. Someone else described one of my Looperman tracks as one of the most creative things he'd heard on the site so maybe you should check that out and see if you agree. It's called Way Beyond Wrong so listen and see if you agree (but feel free to disagree or suggest improvements). Thanks again for listening.

The question didn't blow my mind but, yes, if he could rap I'd let him appear on it. But I'd probably he just instead sing the way he does. I'd love to work with the guy, especially as I don't think he's really done anything particularly good in a number of years. I'm a massive Pink Floyd and Gilmour fan and honestly (arrogantly?) believe I could take what he does and turn it into something modern and interesting. He doesn't live too far away from me and has his studio in a fancy houseboat on the River Thames in London, England. Do a Google search for a Sound on Sound magazne feature on the studio if you're interested. But I think the chances of me working with him are currently about zero as I'm a compleye musical nobody. I have other tracks like this though most of them are hosted on other sites that allow very long tracks (and that's what I tend to do rather than these shorter ones I have on Looperman).

Thanks. I just have a few instruments that I play and quite often try out each one on different sections of my music. I've even done banj-metal (see my track Way Beyond Wrong) though sometimes I'll try banjo and its really not working so don't even bother to record it.

I have quite a lot of banjo in my stuff from the past year or two but none of it is bluegrass our country. I should learn to play some more instruments and then you'd hear things like cello-jungle or sitar-metal from me as I love to mix up the genres and do what I haven't really heard before. Making what I haven't heard before is one of the most important things to me as a composer.

Thanks again.

OK. I shall check out Rain Tree Crow. Don't think I've heard it though I know some of Sylvian's solo stuff.

The bass isn't actually fretless. Instead I've got it going through my octave pedal which also has an attack control. So it's a slow attack that I guess fools your ears into thinking it's fretless.

I'm not sure there are any picked guitars as I think I played it all just with fingers.

The percussion is good but I'm not happy with it so am still working on an improved version. If only Looperman allowed you to just replace a current song with another (better) version...

Glad you noticed the awesomeness - I had an awesome time making it (most of the time). Only a few comments on this but two have said something about this not sounding like hip hop/maybe being in the wrong category on this site.

I agree that it woudn't get in any music shop genre as hip hop but there's definitely hip hop in there but I add so much extra stuff that clearly isn't hip hop that I guess I move it far awayfr m that genre description. I add all this stuff and choose an unusual mix of sounds in order to stand out from the crowd and hopefully make something different and distinctive yet still enjoyable and interesting.

Cool. Glad you're getting to know I have interesting stuff here (and on a few other sites too). Also, it's not really obvious hip hop but I have to choose a genre to put this in. When you read my track description you can always find out lots more about what you're likely to hear and the unusual mix of sounds.

"definitely the right place to be, even if the century's wrong." Good. I never thought about it like that and you're the first person to make that sort of point about the title (which is also unusual and totally open to interpretation). I'm not exactly sure which bass sound you're talking about liking - probably the main one. That's made up of a mix of bass and guitar going through an octave pedal with a slowed attack. Very powerful. I see that bass part on 6:00 as being quite round, actually. I didn't want it to be aggressive as that's where the track just opens up and sits quite nicely in a bit of a dub reggae style. I also don't know what "Barbaro" is.

Last night I made quite a few small improvements to the track, mostly making things less cluttered and more powerful.

I would upload the improved version over the top of this one but I can't see how to do that. I don't understand why I can't do this but have to start again as if it was a whole new piece when it's just an improved version.

Yes, it is unusual - that's what I aim for with almost every track I do. I love so many styles and find it quite easy to mix them up. But getting it all to really work together is much harder. I have no idea if I actually tried to play something Middle Eastern on the guitar here - it's just what came out. I use banjo quite a lot these days as a lead instrument but never played in a country/bluegrass style. Delayed banjo works really well if played in a Middle Eastern style and doesn't really sound like banjo any more.

Well, yes - it's a million miles away from most things stuck in the hip hop section here. Most of which I find very generic and dull. There's no obvious genre for this one so I guess 'crossover' is sort of what it is. However, that tells you so little about it so I never put anything in that category. I thought I'd put this in hip hop and then people would get a big surprise. There's certainly not much hip hop with lead banjo and also not much with Eastern slide blues guitar. Thanks for deciding to click.