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5th Dec 2014 02:53 - 10 years ago
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Description : Hi guys! I'm trying to get my act together and actually finish a song from start to the very last note - let's see how it goes.
This is a simple beginning with just the unfinished instrumental and just a snippet of the vocal I'm going to use. The rules are to NOT to begin an other track before this one is finished. And that will be the first...
Any advice are welcome. Acapella provided by Noemi (https://www.looperman.com/acapellas/detail/6452/dance-with-you-by-gigivanity-120bpm-dance-acapella) and the amazing guitar is from Ferryterry (layered and slized a couple of times, so if it sounds odd it's because of that).
Update 2: Vox somehow in place and added some FL piano. Next thing is to fix the intro and create an outro and EQ away all the noice if I can. UPDATE 3: New intro and outro. Almost finished with the mixdown I guess. Or am I?

Comments (11)

If you have time take a listen and give SeriouslyJoking some feedback.

StylesMusic1
StylesMusic1 15th Dec 2014 00:46 - 10 years ago
Hello SJ. Luv the use of the vocal here...works well with the mellow music. Play around with a fast attack/release compressor on vocals (start with 2ms attack/285ms release and -20db threshold, use an 8:1 ratio and maybe a 10db knee-See what you hear). Would luv to hear the guitar as soon as the first string is plucked in the intro vs fading in (just me). Lot of dynamics here. This should sound nice and crisp with proper EQ-ing, compression and a decent mastering effort. Good job.
-SM1
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 15th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Hi there StylesMusic1!
That's some really detailed advice about the vocal and the other stuff - I'm deffo going to try that if I manege to follow your instructions (good instructions by the way but I'm still such a noob at this mixing stuff).
Thanks a lot!

Also glad you actually liked this.
Cheers/ SJ =)
ValveDriver
ValveDriver 10th Dec 2014 05:06 - 10 years ago
SJ, How are you? Good I hope.

I think this one is my favorite of yours. I like how mellow it is, but at no point is it boring. The arrangement is very well done, as well. It has a more organic, seamless flow to it than a lot of your earlier work. Not to say that your earlier work isn't good, I just think this one stands above.
I know what you mean with finishing one before starting another. Not only do I have a hard drive full of unfinished projects, but I have a couple closets full of unfinished paintings. So, I'm really bad about not finishing what I started. That's one of the things I like about this site, it kind of encourages you to cross the finish line, ya know?

Again, great track. I always enjoy seeing what you come up with.

Take care, SJ.
v.
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 15th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Hi ValVedriVer!
I'm fine thanks - also hoping the same for you and your family.

Really rewarding to read you comment! Thanks for listening. I'm still struggeling with the mix here. Or...well to be honest, not struggeling at all at the moment because I took a break from it. =D
To be continued anyway, I hope.

About these countless unfinished Projects - we'll never get bored anyway, that's for sure. I would also really want to see some of your paintings but I guess that's for an other forum...

Take care you multi talented friend!
Cheers/ SJ =)
Eighteen
Eighteen 9th Dec 2014 21:21 - 10 years ago
Cute vocals, I love it!
nice music to guide it too
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 9th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Thank you, Eighteen!
I'm glad you liked it.

The vocals are there for anybody to grap and create music with (see the link in the description) so go ahead if you like -let's hear your version!

Cheers/ SJ =)
crucethus
crucethus 9th Dec 2014 05:01 - 10 years ago
you did a fine job arranging this one. vocal filter is interesting on the pella, sort of a distorted feel. I might want to back the vox down in the mix just slightly and bring up your wonderful arrangement. Also later in the mix I would think about adding some more complex percussion. But truly a nice piece of work you have here.
Steve
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 9th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Hi Steve!
I'm still holding on to my new me and working strictly on this track to get it finished.
And I did just the thing with the vocal you suggested and turned it down a bit so it's not as much in your face as before...but is it too quiet now?

I still have to redo the vocal line from start and try to EQ out the distortion and get back all the power in her voice and all the other great stuff which are now drowning because of the poor vocal mix.

Also missing a proper bass line here but is it really needed when the guitar takes all the space?
About the more complex percussion - yes, I'll look into that also.

Just redid the intro and created an outro.

So I guess I'm almost finished with the first stages now!!!

YEY.

Thanks for listening, Steve and take care!
Cheers/ SJ =)
ScottB55
ScottB55 8th Dec 2014 23:21 - 10 years ago
So sorry I misunderstood you. I guess your track sounded good enough to sound finished (as I humbly take my foot out of my mouth!) But honestly, it sounded finished to me. Everyone has their own technique for doing their tracks, so you do whatever works for you. If you are successful and pleased with your work, don't worry about anyone else. You're a wonderful musician, so do your own thing!

Cheers,
Scott
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 8th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Now you are making me blush...
Oh, donĀ“t worry! I thought it was a funny misunderstanding.
No worries.
I'll try to do my thing.

Take care Scott!
promenade2239
promenade2239 6th Dec 2014 17:22 - 10 years ago
hi, this song has a lot of space which is very cool and calming to my ears. You can turn this one into a very powerful chillout track by adding a bit of the vocals to all of what you have already or maybe I'll wait until the proper vocals will appear. Anyway great and relaxing sounds! It's completely different from your other productions. I enjoyed it. Alex
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 8th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Hi Alex!
I really hope I didn't ruin the spacy feeling for you now, with the vox...I think I might have. Well, still have the original in my DAW so I could always take it to an other more calm direction later on.
Not really sure what I'm aiming for with this song! It's sounding more and more corny!!

I'm planning on working some more on it and see where it lands.
Thanks for listening!
/ SJ =)
deciBel
deciBel 5th Dec 2014 23:10 - 10 years ago
pleasurable tune , dolce & sweet .
haha! surprise ending is the smartest way to make listener repat the track & U've done it measured & smart .
hope everything goes fine with U ,beyond that monitor SJ .
___B
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 8th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Hello Behnam, long time no..hear. =D

Yes, I'm fine, thanks for asking. I'm really hoping everything is okey with you over there as well, so much horror in the world these dayes.

Take good care of you my friend/ SJ =)
Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed 5th Dec 2014 20:22 - 10 years ago
Its got a really nice groove SJ...those little drops/transitions are something I sometimes spend less time than I should on but I think they work well...I didn`t really catch enough of the vocal part at the end to get a good handle on it...I usually try to make sure it is in the same space or a space that is complimentary to the space/atmosphere of the music mix...I like it so far...like you...I do not worry about genres when I am trying to compose and arrange a mix...genres are fine for those who want to abide by a particular set of rules...beat styles etc...but i dont find them useful (so I have to think about how the hell to I classify this when I`m done most of the time)....afraid I woiuld not be a good source of advice on composing habits....I usually have about a dozen compositions on the go...and one I am am focusing on...some times I find a new idea I can use one for...some times I too get sick of hearing something & hit delete so it leaves me free to think of other things...its all fun anyway....but I guess a more diciplined approach would be more productive....keep this one going.....Ed
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 8th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Ed my friend!
Thanks for taking your time, it's good to know I'm not the only one!

I've worked some more on this now but it's yet far from finished. But at least I'm half way there.
Not sure about the vox going with this style of music but I'll continue on this idea a little more before I decide whether to change the concept or to use an other vox.

Cheers for now!
SJ =)
ScottB55
ScottB55 5th Dec 2014 17:13 - 10 years ago
Hey SJ,

Sounds good and glad you finished it.

I've notice some members will put up half finished projects up. I guess that's ok if you want advice, but I've never been one to post anything till I am fully satisfied with it. I'm also a stickler for finishing one before starting another. I've just always been that way. I work extensively with Franco (ferryterry) and many times I tell him I have to finish what I'm working on before starting one of his projects. I'm constantly making little changes towards the end and until I say to myself, "I can't think of anything else to do to it," I just can't bring myself to post it...But I digress!

Anyway, very good job. Always enjoy checking out your work.

Cheers,
Scott
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 8th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Hello Scott!
I must have wrote it corny someway because you misunderstood: I'm not finished with this one and I'm one of those who NEVER finish anything and post it anyway. Hence this project.
Haha!

Aaanyway - say thanks to your body Ferryterry for the guitarr loop, I could't find it in the forums anymore and thank him for it there myself so I guess he has taken it down for some reason.

I'll try to become more like you in the future. ;)
Cheers and take care! / SJ =)
clindsay
clindsay 5th Dec 2014 16:45 - 10 years ago
I really like the basic riff - example :49 to 1:03. Track has a good groove to it although I'm not sure its a dance groove. I realize this is exploratory - I think the pieces are there they just need to be organized - for example the piece at 1:04 could be extended as an intro - :39 to :45 extended as a chorus. You stuff is always interesting and believe me your struggles and frustration are common to us all.
Much respect
-clindsay
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 8th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Hi Clindsay, so nice to see you here!
I've worked some more with this, and developed the idea a little further.
Not sure if it's the right direction for this song and it's also becoming difficult to get room for all the sound frequenses now with the vox in place.

Not happy with the result so far but happy with myself persisting with trying to get this one done before going to the next one...haha.
And I hope all is well with you!

Cheers/ SJ =)
FreeRadical
FreeRadical 5th Dec 2014 14:35 - 10 years ago
This is pretty funky. For some reason it reminds me a little of U2 just with a breakbeat behind it instead of natural drums. Cool melody. I thought it was really going to take off when that vocal came in but then it just stopped.
It's a nice intro so you should keep going with it.
FR
SeriouslyJoking
SeriouslyJoking replied 5th Dec 2014 - 10 years ago
Hi FR!
So I finally managed to create some breakbeat kind of drums? Without even aiming too...well, I'll take that as a bonus. =D
Guessing the guitar gives it some U2 flavour, actually it's too much guitar, it needs some more instruments to lift off so I'm going to work on that and hopefully come up with a finished song in the end.

Thanks for listening!
Cheers/ SJ =)

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