Summer Paradise - Vocals By PANE - Surniva

Hello Surniva,

I think BaoBao has given you accurate hints across the board in his last comment.

And the key phrase from my point of view is "A song has a melody (...)".

Listening to "Summer Paradise - Vocals By PANE" yesterday, my first thought was that the song is built from nothing but disjointed set pieces; without a halfway recognizable melody, without a line connecting the individual parts.
According to my impression, it was not a musical starting idea that determined the development of the song, but the other way around; individual snippets of music that were just available were pasted together in the expectation that a song would emerge from them.

I don't believe at all that someone has to master an instrument to be able to make beautiful music. If one can, so much the better, but that is certainly not mandatory.

But what is indispensable (completely independent of music-theoretical knowledge) is an ear, a feeling, a sense, a sensitivity for harmony, for sounds and sound sequences that are coherent with each other, that take each other by the hand, that deal sensitively with each other, that are friends with each other, in the very best case those that love each other.

Im convinced that one's own musical socialization always has the decisive influence here - of course not the absolutely sole one - but nevertheless. If someone grows up with soft, melodic music, then he will surely later have the talent to express himself musically in this way than someone who grows up with Rap and vice versa.

I grew up - thank God - primarily with soft music. If it had been Rap, today I would have zero ability, zero feeling to get a pleasant, nice to listen to sound sequence every now and then.
You still go to school, so you are young in years and I assume that your "music school" was and is certainly of the harder way than it was mine. Now tell yourself, where should a hand for melodies come from?

My advice to you is to get away from the music you normally listen to (you can always go back to it later). Lower your understandable ambition a bit. Listen to simple songs, songs that come without any pretense of who knows what complexity. Songs that are just songs. By the way, this can also include children's songs.
Yes, I know, it doesn't give such a cool feeling like the rapper in the last seen gangster video. But these are exactly the songs that give you access to concepts like sound, timbre, sound sequences, harmony, melody, etc.

And don't do too much! It doesn't have to be everything (instruments + vocals) at once. Just try to build a pleasant to listen instrumental track first. The vocals won't run away from you.

Good luck!

Seelengold

I'm sorry if my comment was harsh! I'm also sorry it was the first comment you received; but I see to some extent you've been doing similar things in your older tracks.

Here's a bit of explanation and hopefully that'll help you more.

When we make music, whether it's in a DAW, or jamming with friends, or singing together, or just clapping a rhythm, it's important you all more or less sing the same song. A song has a melody, and the melody then fits a certain "key", meaning all the notes more or less go together. You can change key within a song, but that's something we hear, and if for instance you sing one key but your friend sings a different key, that sounds chaotic and generally unpleasant to human ears.

The same goes for the BPM, the "beats per minute", say the speed of the song. If I clap once every second, and you clap twice every second, that goes together well. But if I clap every 1.1 seconds and you every .9 seconds or just at random, again it sounds like chaos.

These are the things you have to keep in mind when you're playing an instrument, but also when combining loops or samples like you do. That's a learning process, and it makes sense you don't get that right the first time, but if that's something that's hard for you, then try to find a friend, a family member, a teacher, somebody who can show you how to fit things together. Or look on youtube! There are boatloads of good videos.

Here on the site, often you will see the "BPM" indicated (eg 118), and for most vocals and loops people indicate a "key" (eg C major or A minor). It's unfortunately not always correct, but try to stick with all loops the same key and BPM, and then in your DAW (I use Ableton but there are loads, some of them even free or low cost) you need to make sure the same BPM is set, which should make it easier to move them around. Use all samples with the same BPM and key, and you'll have a better start.

Hope that helps you a bit!

The vocals are fine, but they don't match your track, either in speed or in key. That's a pity, I think you better leave them out.
I'm also not sure what's going on in your music, it seems a bunch of unrelated loops if I'm very honest? Did something go wrong maybe, or am I having a stroke?