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19th Jun 2024 18:53 - 9 months ago
Description : I can credit Crucethus as the inspiration for this track.

He introduced me to Chicane, particularly his Saltwater track. I have been listening to a lot of Chicane ever since. And, of course, I have always liked the KLF, even before they burned all that money. So, this track has multiple influences.

Spoken Word acapellas are by Looperman member Steelyvibe.

Track has wide dynamic range and a lot of sub-bass. Headphones or good speakers recommended.

Comments (10)

If you have time take a listen and give EricMilligan some feedback.

fidiu
fidiu 20th Jan 2025 13:57 - 2 months ago
Oh, wow, Eric... very nice composition. I am also a big fan of Chicane. Very nice melodies and combinations. Great work! Also the reverb on the hats reminds me a little bit of Delerium ft. Sarah Mclachlan - The Silence (Tiesto Remix).
Cheers,
Fidiu
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 21st Mar 2025 - 3 weeks ago
Thanks, Fidiu. I wasn't aware of Delerium, so checked them out on Apple Music. Nice stuff! Another really interesting group from Vancouver, my home town. I'm a big fan of Bob Moses, also originally from Vancouver. Must be the rain. :)
AnthonyAttard
AnthonyAttard 14th Jul 2024 10:12 - 9 months ago
Hello Eric
I can't say I know trance music but I really liked it. Wonderful variations in a complete, well-rounded song. Excellent work
Best wishes, Anthony
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 14th Jul 2024 - 9 months ago
Thanks, Anthony.

There has been some (very polite) disagreement as to whether this track really is "trance". I temporarily changed the genre tag to "weird", but changed it back to trance when I removed the track from the "featured" list here on Looperman. I don't think it really qualifies as "weird". But, not exactly the usual trance track either. Ultimately, I don't think it really matters. :)

Eric
crucethus
crucethus 4th Jul 2024 06:34 - 9 months ago
Mate, I don't care what anyone else has suggested for you as the way you should do Trance. This is epic. This might be the most creative soulful trance (Chill) tune you have ever made. The mixing is on point, I was captivated by the opening salvo. Chefs Kiss! You should be very, very proud of what you have made. Holding out that sub-bass at the end is genius as well. Fav'd and downloaded it. I immediately thought of this new artist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTP-H2c9MNQ
I haven't heard anything this creative and compelling Since Roxy Music's premiere album. What you just made is the future, and not the nostalgic past of trance. Bravo!
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 4th Jul 2024 - 9 months ago
Thanks for the high praise, Steve! You really were the impetus for the track. Would have been very disappointing if you hated it! :)

I will check out the new artist you referenced. You must spend a reasonable amount of time listening, not just making music. You seem to know about a lot more contemporary artists in a lot more genres. I probably should do more listening as well, although it's great to have your guidance.

Eric
2Sisters
2Sisters 3rd Jul 2024 21:14 - 9 months ago
Hello Eric, although you have never been to a club, you have captured the atmosphere very well. The first sequence with the spoken word is unbelievably great! The transition to the second part with the continuation, the gentle sounds and the driving basic rhythm - fantastic! Then the return to the spoken word closes the musical circle in a wonderful way. The middle part could have been longer. Very well made club music. I can't say whether it is trance, but whatever it is, I like it a lot!
Best wishes, Manuela
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 4th Jul 2024 - 9 months ago
Hi, Manuela! Thanks for the encouragement!

I think there is a clear consensus in member reaction to this track that the middle section, which is really the only section that might qualify as "trance" is too short. I agree. I should have worked harder to expand it.

I think probably I should not have tagged the track as being "Trance" genre. Clearly, the structure and orchestration doesn't really qualify as Trance.

But, overall, I am happy with the structure and the way the spoken word vocals worked. I definitely do need to try harder to create a more fulsome trance track.

Thanks again,

Regards from Ottawa,

Eric
deanp
deanp 26th Jun 2024 16:05 - 9 months ago
Hi Eric,

I agree with the comments about the unique structure of this track and have also taken on board your comments here and your earlier comments about struggling to produce trance in full. You may or may not take inspiration from the way I do it. The blueprint I generally follow for trance is to include 2 builds and drops in the track after an intro, with the outro (ending) of the track coming back to the intro...basically, after the 2nd drop sequence, there would be an altered version of the intro of the track for the ending. If you can get any value from that, fire away. When I first started, I used the above but only 1 build and 1 drop in the track...and looking back, I could see what was missing....round 2. Having listened to popular trance tracks in the mainstream, this method seems to be backed up there. Best wishes from the UK and good luck.
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 26th Jun 2024 - 9 months ago
Thanks for the advice on making a trance track, Dean. I think I need to spend a bit of time listening to tracks and then have a go at following your advice. I appreciate your advice. It is, frankly, frustrating for me not to be able to do a credible job of creating the kind of music I really like. I've been at it long enough that you'd think I would have figured it out by now. :(

Eric
XDOUSP
XDOUSP 23rd Jun 2024 17:43 - 9 months ago
good vibes and bass ! cheers
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 25th Jun 2024 - 9 months ago
Merci, XDOUSP!

Eric
Kayos2
Kayos2 21st Jun 2024 21:55 - 9 months ago
Eric, that was a beautiful production. Made with love and a fine ear for sounds. Steelyvibes voice fits very well.
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 25th Jun 2024 - 9 months ago
Yes, thanks very much VN. I thought the vocals really did work well. Was a bit tricky getting the levels of the Vocal vs orchestral backing properly balanced in the last section of the track. Took me several revisions of the mix to get it sounding right.

Eric
Leo4455
Leo4455 21st Jun 2024 16:10 - 9 months ago
Ok, unique structure, unusual for me, very deep in the outdoor arena should be sound sick man ) nice one.
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 25th Jun 2024 - 9 months ago
Thanks, Leo

I agree. Is a unique structure. I seem to be doing that more with recent tracks. Not sure why. I think it may be because I still haven't mastered how to do a complete trance track. :)

Eric
dimestop
dimestop 20th Jun 2024 13:28 - 9 months ago
nice work Eric, great intro builder and the female spoken vox is lit. nice drop into a pacy and energetic trance vibe, nice original work, and the sound quality is excellent and you kept the detail right to the end, well done
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 20th Jun 2024 - 9 months ago
Thanks, Dimestop. Yes,I really liked the spoke word vox. I had much of the track done instrumentally, knew I wanted some sort of vocal, but couldn't find anything that really seemed right. Stumbled on the acapellas by Steelyvibe. Just seemed to fit right in. :)

Eric
Morash
Morash 20th Jun 2024 05:47 - 9 months ago
intro is nice and calm. Feels like Ibiza club scene, nice work.
EricMilligan
EricMilligan replied 20th Jun 2024 - 9 months ago
Thanks, Morash. Never been to a club, so if I got even anywhere close to that feel it would be pretty astounding to me! :)

Eric

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