Well, I realize from your profile that you are retired, (white-haired grampa making dance music) - just like me. Except, that you almost certainly DO have time to develop your proficiency in making music and, more importantly, have fun doing it. I am 78 years old. Still learning. Still creating, as best I can. More slowly, definitely. But, I have no intention of stopping. Too much fun. :)
Hi Eric, Indeed, just 9 year younger and most likely some time left on this planet to create many more tracks, just have to find a free site where I can stash 40+ new tracks per year :-) I guess I have to start dropping older stuff here on LM.
One more thing! Your track reminded me of music from a group I really liked a few years ago. Couldn't remember the. name and then, it just came to me: Gotan Project. French trio. Accordion, piano, guitar. Tango music but with integration of drum machines and samples. The genre of music in your track is, of course very different, but the concept of melding contemporary production with a unique, and very melodic, vocal delivery and solo instrument is much the same. Works really well I think. :)
Really enjoyed this track, Dan. Vocal was excellent! You are lucky to have a friend who sings so well! Also, I really like the trumpet part. Worked really well in the song. Definitely gave what is an EDM track, an entirely unique flavour. Great idea. Entire production/mix sounded very professional.
I actually have few friends that sings very well. This particular women is great singer but sadly she didn't make it to bigger stages for now. But i really believe she will make it because she have unique and strong vocal. She sings at hotels and summer events during tourist season (i'm also doing that, i do few local parties every season) Of course there is little mastering and tweaking from my side but her raw voice is huge potential.
I love when my songs are polished, i learned from my exp that less is more and if you give enough attention to track it just can't be bad (i worked on this track like 100 hours or more just around vocal lol) and i can work on like 10 projects at same time :D I have more time to do this as this is my job and i'm producing and mastering music and i work as videographer from my little studio at home for many people here in Croatia and around the world. I have some pauses with music as working around videos is my main job but i always come back to music as i love making it.
Cheers!
This is REALLY interesting track, TheFrenZ! Hypnotic bass and percussion foundation, with a really eclectic second layer of SFX, another layer of vocals, and yet another layer of synth melody lines, all weaving in and out. Panning of the various components was really well done and the overall mix was really clear, with all parts having their distinct places in the frequency spectrum. I liked, especially, that you kept a decent amount of dynamic range in the mix, particularly for a dance track. Really enjoyed it.
Hi Eric, glad you like it, thanks for the comment. I'm a jealous of you and some others here on LM who can dissect a song and lift out musical and technical details. I'm missing knowledge and years of experience in the music world, I'm just playing around in Reaper on my laptop for allmost 18 months now. And with my age I will never become an expert like you guys and girls.
Back to the music: Except for the thunder and my vocals, it's all MIDI and this time for the majority the Massive VST. I create my own melodies, drum paterns, automations. I mix my own creations but don't master, I seldomly use compressors, I use limiters where needed to shave off peaks that occur due to sound stacking, I don't participate in the loudnesswar. True peak: -0.3, Clips: 0, LUFS-I: -13.3, LRA: 2.8. LRA could be better but I didn't focus on it. And all of that just for the fun of creating.
OK, Paul. Another project headed in the right direction for sure. You have clearly mastered the "plumping" sound for good dance music, something I have yet to figure out. I actually know how to do it using side-chain compression, in theory, but am too damn lazy to actually attempt it in my tracks. Someplace, I have a plugin that is supposed to do it automatically. A couple of comments: You have a really interesting bass sound that comes in right at the end of the track, around 4:30 or so. I think that needs to be featured more prominently in the track a much earlier. Generally, I'd work on the mix to get the various sounds more distinct, using EQ and panning to separate them. Right now, it's a "wall of sound", which is OK for some things, but I think this track could be improved by more clarity in the various components. Also, and I've heard this in several of your tracks, unless I'm mistaken and am hearing the rhythm "off", you have the clap sound sounding on the "1" of each bar. In other tracks, a similar sound I think was on the 1 and 3. Generally, I think the kick sound should be on the 1, 2, 3, and 4 for this kind of EDM and the clap, or equivalent should be on the 2 and 4. I know I broke that rule on my most recent track, Berlin 1935, but it's not common. Finally, on this track, I really don't hear a kick in the mix at all. So, it doesn't quite have the 4 on the floor feel to really drive it as a dance track. The kick might be there someplace in the mix, but I couldn't hear it. Needs to be brought up, perhaps with some compression to really give it more punch in the overall sound. I did like the key changes. That's kind of unusual and makes the track more interesting. I know you done that in other tracks as well. I'd give some thought to how to design transitions for them, so your a signalling a change and the listener has a chance to adjust to the new sound environment. I suspect, but don't really know, that key changes in dance tracks could pose a problem for DJs. Their software indexes tracks by a whole bunch of attributes, including BPM and definitely key. Don't know if their software will indicate if the ending key differs from the opening key of a track. This could be significant to a DJ when cueing up the next track I would think.
Hi, Paul: Nice background instrumental. Again, more variation which is essential to keep up interest, although I do realize that in tracks meant for club play, things can go on much longer to lock in the groove for dancers/listeners. I do agree with Anthony's comments about the tuning of the vocal from Splice. It's clearly not in the same key as your instrumental backing. Tuning it down from A minor to G minor should have worked, but it doesn't sit right, at last to my ears. I'm lousy at figuring out the key of music just from listening to it. I have some software plugins that can do that for me more reliably. Maybe the Splice loop was mis-labelled?
Hi, Paul. So, Project 2 is definitely an improvement over Project 1. It has more variation, both in the drum and the synth parts. Also has a melody line, which is great. I did like your Project 1, but decided to comment on both here. I like the combination of synth sounds you used on Project 1. I definitely could come up with a melody line for it. It needs more variation in the arrangement, but is a good bed for a finished dance track. Am going to take a listen to some of your other projects. From the first two, at least, I see a progression in your production.
Hi Eric thank you very much for your feedback and time to listen! much appreciated. yes if you can improve or have tips on improving I'm all ears. cheers buddy
Hi, Richard. First, you have written a very inspiring lyric. Is a joyous message and the melody you crafted delivers that with even more power and emotion. I very much enjoyed listening to the song. I do try to provide some suggestions on tracks where I have thoughts about how they might be made even better. I only do this where I really like what I've heard, so I hope you will receive this in the spirit in which it is given. I think the balance in the mix between the instrumental backing and the vocals could be modified a little bit to bring up the instruments a bit more. The vocals clearly need to be dominant in the mix, but the instrumental "bed" backing them I think needs to be elevated just a wee bit. There are also some interesting background vocal parts that really add something special and I'd lift them up a bit more in the mix when they occur. That said, it is a very fine song.
Thank you so much for your kind words and for taking the time to listen and share your thoughts , it truly means a lot to me.
Please know that I genuinely appreciate your constructive feedback. Your suggestions about the mix - especially regarding the balance between the vocals and the instrumental backing, as well as highlighting the background vocals are very insightful. Ill definitely revisit the mix, and Ill keep your points in mind for all future works to see how I can enhance those elements without losing the essence of the song.
Its always encouraging to receive thoughtful input, especially from someone who understands and appreciates the heart behind the music. Thanks again for your support!
I agree totally with all the other comments on your track! I really enjoyed listening to it. One sure sign that I connect with an instrumental track is that I immediately start coming up with lead melodies (i.e, for vocals) in my head while I'm listening to it. That happened with your track. You have labelled it as a hip hop beat. I think it has much broader potential application to other genres as well. Very well done!
Hey, DanMed. I really enjoyed this track. I haven't been on LM for quite a while. Is nice to hear such good stuff being posted. Your entire production was really good. I appreciated the deep rich bass foundation that you got. Vocal was excellent. You clearly know how to make a good dance track. I'm still working on figuring that out. :)
Really well done! Very catchy. Great instrumental backing. Lots of variation in the arrangement. Vocals were excellent. I thought the mix was very good. I have no suggestions for adjustment or improvement. I just really enjoyed listening to the track.
Hi, Jkingz! I really enjoyed this track. Very tastefully done. Excellent vocal performance. I particularly liked the guitar solo, which fit the song really well. Nice phrasing. I felt the mix might have benefited from a bit of fine-tuning, but overall it was really nice to listen to something acoustic and a good original vocal.
Anthony: I see no problem in taking a loop (or multiple loops) that have been identified as a particular genre, and using them to create a track in an entirely different genre. I would think the loops' authors would be quite pleased by the creativity and the expanded potential of the music they created. That said, in my experience, I have been a bit concerned about the reaction from authors of acapellas, if I take liberties with them in my tracks. It's not only a question of what genre they get used in, but also modifications through processing of the vocals, editing to modify phrasing, etc. That can be tricky, although I don't think I've ever had any push-back from the authors of acapellas I have used.
So, I think you re-purposed this guitar look from Safino, really well in this track. I would be inclined to tag the track is "chill", not cinematic, but ultimately the genre is really not that significant I think.
Thank you so much for your interest in my track. What I really enjoyed from your comment was the proper English expressions like the "authors" of the loops, your "concern" and not worry, the "identification" of the loop's genre instead of the characterization. Really educative. Yes, processing of the vocals and editing to modify phrasing are alterations that could bother an author of an acapella and for that reason I always try to invite the author to listen and comment. If the author is displeased, withdrawing the track is surely an option.
Anyhow, I really am glad you liked the outcome
Best wishes, Anthony
Hi,Dimestop. I really enjoyed this track, and the very pointed message you were delivering.
Read the lyrics from beginning to end. I particularly liked the following: "the story for you lot, join in or sod-off". Pithy, and to the point. I also read all the comments and your responses.
I must admit I wasn't consciously aware of the imbalance you are highlighting with this track, although I guess I probably did realize it was how things are. Just accepted it as "normal". You opened my eyes to the issue.
Also, was not aware that LM members' work was being downloaded, modified, and monetized - with no attribution. That's theft, pure and simple. I'm pretty sure it hasn't happened to any of my tracks (not of interest to anybody for that purpose), but definitely not fair to LM members who have had that happen.
Anyway, this is a very worthy message and a track definitely worth listening to.
hi Eric thanks for a great comment, yeah AI stem splitters will split every instrument these days , then you can just change everything like piano for a violin, closed hat for a ride altering bpm make it sound different and if its a pro track your stealing the description would be influenced by, mix it differently and bingo easy track from loops you manufactured from artist who have put the graft in, ive seen the vids, its easy, and it happens. whether we are good artist or not is irrelevant, its your IP, if your not making off it, others certainly shouldn't. i will always remind the community of the pitfalls, as i do about pushing more to join in, and like you i don't think im good enough so probably wont have that issue anyway :))
Well, just had to say that I really enjoyed listening to this really nice track. Very nice groove. Loved the chord changes. I figure that's fingers, not pick-work. Very tasteful. I'm tempted to ask if you'd be willing to lay down something on one of my tracks. I don't play guitar anymore and, frankly, was never at your level. You and I share the same love of soul and RnB. Definitely my favourite genre. Same influences. :)
1ST thank you for the ears and kind words. You are right no pick. You flatter me. If I can help. would be honored. Gotta tell you I don't consider myself a guitar player. I use the guitar to try and get some music out my head. I would like to hear what you got. If I can't find something to play, I will let you know. Hit me up on my home page. Again, thank you for the ears, kind words and consideration. PEACE.
Hi, Mindhiest. Listened to your most recent track (impressive) and decided to check out anything else you had uploaded to LM.
This is definitely one of the best pieces of music I've heard here - ever. Really well done. Composition/arrangement is very thoughtful and maintains the listener's interest throughout. Excellent mix.
I am impressed. Seems that you upload tracks relatively infrequently to LM. So far, from what I've heard, this is definitely a commitment to quality over quantity. And I think that's great.
Oli, I can decide what part of this track I like the most: the fantastic instrumental backing (worthy of being all on its own without a vocal) or the spoken word vocal, which sounded amazing! Oh wait! I don't have to choose! They just work so well together, it transcends each part. :)
Loved the track. Very evocative. It immediately reminded me of Robbie Robertson's "Somewhere Down the Crazy River". Same languid feel. Great lyrics. Mix was right on the money.
If you've got more stuff like this salted away someplace, definitely bring it on!
Hi Eric, many thanks for your reply. Yes, Voice and Music can be parted but I hope they do good as a unit :-) Was listening to Robbie Robertsons, a quite experienced Musician. Thanks for the hint.
Hi, Nick. This song is really good. Your vocal was excellent. I've never attempted to make a Reggae track, probably would fail miserably, but you did a great job on this one. I'm inclined to search out your acapella for it and see where it takes me. Very nice work!
Hi, Ed. It's a rainy Saturday night in Ottawa. Pretty quiet. This track was exactly what I needed. Great RnB feel. You really nailed it. I like all kinds of genres, but RnB is for sure my favourite. Very tasty guitar work. Wasn't aware of SkiMidi's vocals. Definitely will check him out as you suggested. Like you, I've been on LM only sporadically but have resolved to visit more often and when I find a track like this one, I'm really happy I did.
thanks very much Eric. You can likely tell from the speed of my replies how much time I spend here.Gave up on finding acapellas as its all vocal fx and not really usable for actual music. Send some of that rain out here..its drier than a fart and unless that changes we`ll be missing farm crops this year. Just going to head over & see what you been up to..Ed
Well, Steve. Your tracks continue to astound me. First of all, a pristine mix. Actually, that's not astounding at all for you, but so nice to hear. You are right. Need decent headphones to really appreciate the nuances I think. Second of all, you continue to forge ahead, exploring/creating innovative compositions. (I seem to be heading backwards, retreating into older comfort zones.)
Like Angel Eyes, I particularly enjoyed the part starting around 3:53. But, frankly, the entire track was engaging and masterfully executed. As usual.
"(I seem to be heading backwards, retreating into older comfort zones.)"
Exploring the past can sometimes be an amazing fountain of creativity to expound on what was created in such a fast-paced time experience and no one has sat down and unfolded and unpacked what made these genres successful (i.e. Disco) I love deconstructing genres and adding nuances and modern features. Roxy Music when they came out were masters of making you feel the future and yet reclaiming the past (50's) as their own. If you look at it from that perspective you will stop trying to clone the sound but just embrace the sound and make it your own.I like Brian Eno's Oblique Strategies in the Studio. You may pull a card and it will say make a disco tune that represents the Color Blue. Thats where your creativity takes off mate!
Hi, Dean! So, I know I've said this previously in comments on other tracks here on LM, Trance is my favourite EDM genre. It was a treat to hear this track from you. Totally enjoyed it. I suck at making Trance. You clearly have figured out how to do it right.
I have read about the EQ issue on the kick. Frankly, I'd like to hear it come through even more, but at some point balancing the sounds in a mix comes down to a matter of taste, which is inherently subjective I think. The suggestion that perhaps you should find another kick sample was interesting. At Point Blank, our instructor told us that if we had to do a lot of EQing on a kick, we had the wrong sound to begin with. (Advice that I rarely follow, but probably has merit.) Synth work was excellent and I really admired how you got the bass pumping. I still can't do that properly.
Again, is a great track and well worth the 6 weeks effort.
Hi Eric, many thanks for your comments. they are very constructive indeed. I switched the kick to use Ableton's built in EQ kick setting after the comments about the kick on here. As for the track structure, I have figured that the Trance genre works better if there is at least 2 builds and drops sections within it, followed by an outro which should basically consist of a variation of the intro. Previously I was focusing on just 1 build and drop in the track, which I found listening back was missing a lot. Thanks again.
I usually don't listen to a lot of hip hop, but your comment about cincocent helping you figure out what you are best at got me intrigued. This is a really cool track! I think the vocal you added works fantastically with the backing track you did. Backing sounds "rich" and the mix is really nicely balanced. I'm feeling in a mellow mood this evening and this track fit right in perfectly.
It's getting on in the evening here. Saturday night andI am feeling mellow, winding down and found this track, Danke. So, mellow. Great vibe. Sax, bass, and Rhodes worked great. Nice clean mix. Hit the spot!
I am pretty much blown away by this track, Mark. Amazingly good work. The drums were outstanding. Actually, that's a serious understatement. I was a drummer once upon a time, but never at that level. That's a great example of percussion not just keeping time, but intricately weaving part of the tapestry. Don't hear that at all I think in EDM, and pretty rarely in pop, at least in my opinion. Let me also comment on the sax part. Doing a convincing sax using any VST is, in my experience, really really difficult. I find it impossible and have given up trying. You nailed it! And finally, the bass part was on the same level as the drums. You clearly have spent some time mastering the more advanced features of Trillian, creating a pass part that, frankly, didn't sound at all like it was coming from a virtual instrument. It sounded like it was played live by a skilled bass player.
Greetings Eric. Thanks for taking out time and giving your impressions on what you heard. From the way you reacted to the drums, drumming is still in your bones! It never goes away! Thanks also for the sax mention. I've waited a long time to up my sax game. I appreciate that mention as well. Trilian just about a month ago, got a minor update, and that for some reason made it even more ferocious. The VST instruments all have great starting points, but the real fun comes in with side chain compression, reverbs, delays, saturation, and automation. It takes a combination of different effects for fine-tuning. Anyway, we should pick up this conversation at a later date. It's really been great having you stop by.
Thank-you so much for making and posting this, Doudei! It was...lovely. A real treat. You played it beautifully. I always wanted to be able to play this composition, one of my very favourites, but never got the chance. Now, of course, I could not even manage the right hand part alone. Listening to it here on LM, for some reason, I am paying much more attention to how Debussy varied the voicing of the chordal sequence, mostly played in the left hand, in parts where the melody line was basically the same. I also think maybe actual chords, not just voicings of the same chords, were varied somewhat as well. It is a composition that you can just get lost in as a listener, but also explore and analyze from a composition perspective as well.
Thanks Eric, appreciate you taking the time to listen and comment.
I agree, its worth to listen closely and analyze, but also equally to just let go and be taken by it. never gets boring!
warmest greetings from switzerland
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Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
on Ti Si Mi Sloboda - You Are My Freedom by DanMed
on Ti Si Mi Sloboda - You Are My Freedom by DanMed
I love when my songs are polished, i learned from my exp that less is more and if you give enough attention to track it just can't be bad (i worked on this track like 100 hours or more just around vocal lol) and i can work on like 10 projects at same time :D I have more time to do this as this is my job and i'm producing and mastering music and i work as videographer from my little studio at home for many people here in Croatia and around the world. I have some pauses with music as working around videos is my main job but i always come back to music as i love making it.
Cheers!
on Normal by TheFrenZ
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
Back to the music: Except for the thunder and my vocals, it's all MIDI and this time for the majority the Massive VST. I create my own melodies, drum paterns, automations. I mix my own creations but don't master, I seldomly use compressors, I use limiters where needed to shave off peaks that occur due to sound stacking, I don't participate in the loudnesswar. True peak: -0.3, Clips: 0, LUFS-I: -13.3, LRA: 2.8. LRA could be better but I didn't focus on it. And all of that just for the fun of creating.
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Eric
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on I Choose the Light by RichardShekari
Thank you so much for your kind words and for taking the time to listen and share your thoughts , it truly means a lot to me.
Please know that I genuinely appreciate your constructive feedback. Your suggestions about the mix - especially regarding the balance between the vocals and the instrumental backing, as well as highlighting the background vocals are very insightful. Ill definitely revisit the mix, and Ill keep your points in mind for all future works to see how I can enhance those elements without losing the essence of the song.
Its always encouraging to receive thoughtful input, especially from someone who understands and appreciates the heart behind the music. Thanks again for your support!
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on In The Underworld by DanMed
Greetings from Ottawa
Eric
Cheers from Croatia.
on Nightflight by Kayos2
Regards from Ottawa
Eric
on Memories by Jkingz
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
on Days without you by AnthonyAttard
So, I think you re-purposed this guitar look from Safino, really well in this track. I would be inclined to tag the track is "chill", not cinematic, but ultimately the genre is really not that significant I think.
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
Anyhow, I really am glad you liked the outcome
Best wishes, Anthony
on Lunacy by dimestop
Read the lyrics from beginning to end. I particularly liked the following: "the story for you lot, join in or sod-off". Pithy, and to the point. I also read all the comments and your responses.
I must admit I wasn't consciously aware of the imbalance you are highlighting with this track, although I guess I probably did realize it was how things are. Just accepted it as "normal". You opened my eyes to the issue.
Also, was not aware that LM members' work was being downloaded, modified, and monetized - with no attribution. That's theft, pure and simple. I'm pretty sure it hasn't happened to any of my tracks (not of interest to anybody for that purpose), but definitely not fair to LM members who have had that happen.
Anyway, this is a very worthy message and a track definitely worth listening to.
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
on JUST LIVE by NDAPOCKET123
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
on Hero for just one day by mindhiest
This is definitely one of the best pieces of music I've heard here - ever. Really well done. Composition/arrangement is very thoughtful and maintains the listener's interest throughout. Excellent mix.
I am impressed. Seems that you upload tracks relatively infrequently to LM. So far, from what I've heard, this is definitely a commitment to quality over quantity. And I think that's great.
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
on VT Nights - Escape from Reality by Kayos2
Loved the track. Very evocative. It immediately reminded me of Robbie Robertson's "Somewhere Down the Crazy River". Same languid feel. Great lyrics. Mix was right on the money.
If you've got more stuff like this salted away someplace, definitely bring it on!
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
on The World is On Fire by 2nick8
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
on They See Me Shining featuring SkiMidi by Tumbleweed
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
on X is Broken by crucethus
Like Angel Eyes, I particularly enjoyed the part starting around 3:53. But, frankly, the entire track was engaging and masterfully executed. As usual.
Eric
"(I seem to be heading backwards, retreating into older comfort zones.)"
Exploring the past can sometimes be an amazing fountain of creativity to expound on what was created in such a fast-paced time experience and no one has sat down and unfolded and unpacked what made these genres successful (i.e. Disco) I love deconstructing genres and adding nuances and modern features. Roxy Music when they came out were masters of making you feel the future and yet reclaiming the past (50's) as their own. If you look at it from that perspective you will stop trying to clone the sound but just embrace the sound and make it your own.I like Brian Eno's Oblique Strategies in the Studio. You may pull a card and it will say make a disco tune that represents the Color Blue. Thats where your creativity takes off mate!
on Take My Breath Away by deanp
I have read about the EQ issue on the kick. Frankly, I'd like to hear it come through even more, but at some point balancing the sounds in a mix comes down to a matter of taste, which is inherently subjective I think. The suggestion that perhaps you should find another kick sample was interesting. At Point Blank, our instructor told us that if we had to do a lot of EQing on a kick, we had the wrong sound to begin with. (Advice that I rarely follow, but probably has merit.) Synth work was excellent and I really admired how you got the bass pumping. I still can't do that properly.
Again, is a great track and well worth the 6 weeks effort.
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
on sprinter fka comfort zone by BONEZONMARZ
Nicely done!
Eric
on Day off by Danke
Eric
I'm very glad that you commented on my track and you liked it ... :-)
Fistbump,
Danke
on Flight 77 Mastered by kingmt77
Just totally impressive.
Eric
on claude debussy - clair de lune by doudei
Again, well done!
Regards from Ottawa,
Eric
I agree, its worth to listen closely and analyze, but also equally to just let go and be taken by it. never gets boring!
warmest greetings from switzerland